Its Christmastime again!

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

.... and that means time to translate more Christmas carols into lì'fya leNa'vi!

One absurdly simple Christmas song, perhaps the most basic one of all, does not appear to have been previously translated:

Sìlpey awnga nga tsnì fpom ftxozä
Sìlpey awnga nga tsnì fpom ftxozä
Sìlpey awnga nga tsnì fpom ftxozä
ulte zìzìt amip

As usual for poetry/song, grammatical rules were 'bent' to make this work. fpom and ftxozä are both nouns, in a place where one of them should be an adjective. But the adjective we have for this use nitram doesn't fit well rhythmically.

I also experimented with Sìlpey awnga and awnga sìlpey for the first words. Both arrangements work gramatically. I ultimately chose Sìlpey awnga, as it seems somewhat more idiomatic leNa'vi, and sìlpey contrasts nicely with ulte at the beginning of the last line. Awnga sìlpey is a bit easier to sing, but awnga and ulte sound too much alike for first words.

Thoughts, anyone?

['Oma Tirea]

Kxawm sìltsan nì'ul:

Rangal ayoel ngaru fpom ftxozät
Rangal ayoel ngaru fpom ftxozät
Rangal ayoel ngaru fpom ftxozät
Ulte zìsìt amip.

Again, bending the grammar rules with fpom to fit the tune

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Irayo, ma 'Oma Tirea!

Skxawng lu oe nang I thought sìlpey was 'wish'   I guess I should stick to really complex sentences like Oel taron yerikit  

I can see where ayoe is a better pronoun choice than awnga

Your version flows better as well, and still manages to include all the case markings.

[Plumps]

Kxawm sìltsan nì'ul:

Rangal ayoel ngaru fpom ftxozät
...

Rangal was established as being intransitive, I'm afraid

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

UPDATE: I found the link to the reference in Plump's post. It confirms what I was suspecting below, that tsnì constructions can be used with rangal as well.

So, we could use Rangal ayoe nga tsnì fpom ftxozä or Ayoe rangal nga tsnì fpom ftxozä Both are easily singable. Or, since 'we' is first person in the song, would something like ayoe nìrangal ngaru fpom ftxozä more appropriate?

Here's what i posted earlier:
The dictionary lists it as simply a verb. Do you have a source for this info?

Being intransitive would be interesting, because you usually have something you wish for. e.g. I wish for (something).  This is usually a transitive usage, or a place to use tsnì (and may be part of the reason that sìlpey is what I remembered for 'wish', and you would use 'hope' in constructions similar to how you would use 'wish'.) Or, is 'for' a preposition here? The other usage of 'wish' would be as a noun as in 'make a wish'.

And then we have nìrangal, which I am not sure how you would use.

[Plumps]

Yes, I gave the link to the Wiki above. It was given as a language update by Tirea here back in August.

So, I'm assuming it behaves like sìlpey in that it takes tsnì (as stated by K. Pawl). On the other hand he also states that with a phrase like "I wish that" nìrangal is the more common.

I'd say for the phrase at hand

          nìrangal lefpoma ftxozä
          ...
          Ulte zìsìt amip.

With an implied (ay)ngar l(iv)u ... as in trr lefpom, Eywa ngahu etc.
Of course, this changes "we wish you" to "I wish that you have a happy celebration" ... but I think the message stays the same

[Kamean]

Nice ma 'Oma Tirea!

[Alyara Arati]

fmawnit asìltsan, ayoel ayngar tìng
fpi ftxozä ayngeyä
ulte zìsìt amip

.<:-D

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

fmawnit asìltsan, ayoel ayngar tìng
fpi ftxozä ayngeyä
ulte zìsìt amip

.<:-D

Sorry I haven't posted here in a few days. I have been very busy with work trying to get a program covering Saturday morning's lunar eclipse on the web.

Very nice addition, ma alyara!
Ma Plumps, Your version certainly meets the concept of Na'vi conciseness, and it is very singable. Somehow, though, it seems to need a pronoun, and I am working on which pronoun to reintroduce, and where. Other, then that, it looks like we are pretty close to a good rendition of this song.

['Oma Tirea]

Kxawm sìltsan nì'ul:

Rangal ayoel ngaru fpom ftxozät
...

Rangal was established as being intransitive, I'm afraid

Tsari irayo (it was previously listed as v. in the dictionary).  Luckily I was careful to account for both forms of transitivity without ruining the syllabification

On the other hand he also states that with a phrase like "I wish that" nìrangal is the more common.

The reason I avoided nìrangal is it because it is for unattainable wishes.  A happy celebration isn't unattainable, is it?

Kop, kosman ma Alyara (although I might include a smukur in there)

[`Eylan Ayfalulukanä]

Irayo nìtxan, ma eylan. I am going to go with Oma Tirea's corrected version and Alyara Arati's additional verse. I had misgivings about nìrangal as well.

I am almost certainly going to have to sing this at the company Christmas party tomorrw!

[Tirea Aean]

My take. Whole song (afaik).

ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
sì mipa zìsìt lefpom

ayoel fmawnit teiyìng
ayngar sì smukur
(tìng) fmawnit akosman
sì mipa zìsìt lefpom

set munge ftxìlora teylut
set munge ftxìlora teylut
set munge ftxìlora teylut
ulte tsngalit fpomä

sa'uluke ke hum ayoe
sa'uluke ke hum ayoe
sa'uluke ke hum ayoe
ha munge fìtseng

ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
ayngaru lefpoma ftxozä
sì mipa zìsìt lefpom


Merry Christmas!

[Tsuksìm atsawl (KaPTan)]

as usual, tirea is best pony... i mean na'vi.

[Tirea Aean]

Can't help helpin'

[Kamean]

Ma Tirea Aean - kosmana pamrel.

[Tirea Aean]

Ma Tirea Aean - kosmana pamrel.

Tstunwi ma Kamean.

[Kamean]

Kea tìkin ma tsmuk. Ngeyä pamrel leiu txantsan nìngay.

[Blue Elf]

ayoel fmawnit teiìng teiyìng
ayngar sì smukur
fmawnit akosman
sì mipa zìsìt lefpom

Gooood job
Just wondering if teiìng is correct - I think teiyìng would be better. Is there any link to song (on youtube etc.), I'm not sure if I know it, but like to hear it

[Tirea Aean]

Kea tìkin ma tsmuk. Ngeyä pamrel leiu txantsan nìngay.

Ngeyä REL leiu txantsan nìngay HRH

ayoel fmawnit teiìng teiyìng
ayngar sì smukur
fmawnit akosman
sì mipa zìsìt lefpom

Gooood job
Just wondering if teiìng is correct - I think teiyìng would be better. Is there any link to song (on youtube etc.), I'm not sure if I know it, but like to hear it

I think it is. I DID consider putting a y in there like that. but since i != ì... But really it kinda does sound like a y is in there if you say it fast enough.

This is just another of those things we don't have confirmation on. I'll leave it as is until we know if a y goes between i and ì even if they are not completely identical vowels. It wouldn't completely surprise me if it ends up the case that a y does go there.

You don't know "We wish you a merry Christmas"?

here is a random sing-a-long version of the melody I just found on youtube:

We Wish You A Merry Christmas

[Kamean]

Ngeyä REL leiu txantsan nìngay HRH

Fì'uri Kemaweyanur irayo seiyi oe.