Ke'u slä fì'u tsranten.

eejmensenikbenhet · February 06, 2011, 02:31:06 PM

Kaltxì ma smukan sì smuke. There was this thread once with a half translated song, with unsingable lyrics. Awngeyä tsmukan hemmond and I decided to make a new song together. Hemmond plays the guitar and I play the piano, all we need now is a singer and lyrics...

There are some usefull translations in the thread mentioned above:
Nothing else matters. - Ke'u slä fì'u tsranten. - Nothing but this matters.
So close, no matter how far. - Ha lok, ke tsranten peyfa alìm. - So close, doesn't matters how far.

But if we want to record this song, we need more lyrics, someone who would like to give it a try?

QuoteSo close, no matter how far
Couldn't be much more from the heart
Forever trusting who we are
and nothing else matters

Never opened myself this way
Life is ours, we live it our way
All these words I don't just say
and nothing else matters

Trust I seek and I find in you
Every day for us something new
Open mind for a different view
and nothing else matters

never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
but I know

never cared for what they say
never cared for games they play
never cared for what they do
never cared for what they know
and I know

hemmond · February 07, 2011, 12:03:52 PM

I'll only add original video, for those, who don't know this song.
Metallica - Nothing Else Matters [Original Video]

Tirea Aean · June 23, 2011, 02:36:12 PM

Oh my!! How did I ONLY JUST NOW find tihs? I have interest in translating this.

\\bump, input on the way

Tirea Aean · June 23, 2011, 03:02:04 PM

okay so here's what I got. Tried to make it singable, I'm familiar with this song (and can play most if not all on guitar, I know a lot of Metallica's stuff on guitar

)

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sim fìtxan ke tsranten ngimpup
ta txe'lan nì'ul ke tsun livu
frakrr [trust] sutet a awnga lu
ayu alahe ke tsranten

Kawkrr piak ke säpi fìfya
tìrey lu awngey, ha tsafya rey
faylì'ut oel ke peng nì'aw
ayu alahe ke tsranten

[Trust]it fwew ulte oel ngamì run
Fratrr awngaru lu 'uo amip
sìketengpfi ronsem lu piak
ayu alahe ke tsranten

kawkrr ke sunu aylì'u fey
kawkrr ke sunu ayuvan fey
kawkrr ke sunu ayhem fey oer
kawkrr ke sunu fwa fol omum
ulte omum oel

Kamean · June 23, 2011, 03:13:52 PM

Nice translating.

Tirea Aean · June 23, 2011, 03:18:31 PM

Irayo ma Kamean.

I did that very quickly, as you can see by the post times xD

Surely a thing or two there may be up for discussion.

I'm very eager for a word for "trust(vt)" and "to care(vi) for / to care(vi) about / to have a care(n) / caring(adj)"

hemmond · June 23, 2011, 04:17:37 PM

I just tried to play that, but some parts are hard to play...

Quotetìrey lu awngey, rey nìfya'o awngey

Seems too long (I need to short it of the "awngey" word... Then it'll be singable - need to cut off 2 syllables)

Quoteronsem apiak fpi fpìlfya aketeng

Would be better if it'll be 1 syllable shorter...

That's for start.

Tirea Aean · June 23, 2011, 05:06:51 PM

Quote from: hemmond on June 23, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
I just tried to play that, but some parts are hard to play...

Quotetìrey lu awngey, rey nìfya'o awngey
Seems too long (I need to short it of the "awngey" word... Then it'll be singable - need to cut off 2 syllables)

Quoteronsem apiak fpi fpìlfya aketeng
Would be better if it'll be 1 syllable shorter...

That's for start.

dont forget blending. here is how I imagined it. listen to the song to catch the melody. I think it's not 100% the same amount of syllables, but really, so long as the syllable count is not WAY TOO different, it's singable imo. (following is a syllable matchup how I imagined it.)

tì-rey law--ngey rey nì---fya-'o aw----ngey
life is ours we live live it our way

ron-sem api-ak fpi fpìl-fya a-ke---teng
o -pen mind for a diff -rent view

hemmond · June 23, 2011, 06:12:19 PM

Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 23, 2011, 05:06:51 PM
Quote from: hemmond on June 23, 2011, 04:17:37 PM
I just tried to play that, but some parts are hard to play...

Quotetìrey lu awngey, rey nìfya'o awngey
Seems too long (I need to short it of the "awngey" word... Then it'll be singable - need to cut off 2 syllables)

Quoteronsem apiak fpi fpìlfya aketeng
Would be better if it'll be 1 syllable shorter...

That's for start.

dont forget blending. here is how I imagined it. listen to the song to catch the melody. I think it's not 100% the same amount of syllables, but really, so long as the syllable count is not WAY TOO different, it's singable imo. (following is a syllable matchup how I imagined it.)

tì-rey law--ngey rey nì---fya-'o aw----ngey
life is ours we live live it our way

ron-sem api-ak fpi fpìl-fya a-ke---teng
o -pen mind for a diff -rent view

I was playing on the guitar and singing it. Even with blending, 2 syllables are too much to keep the same melody... I tried it several times, but... It's still too much...

Tirea Aean · June 23, 2011, 06:27:22 PM

OH. plus it seems I have failed. I wrote "live" twice.

I'll rethink it.

EDIT:

Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 23, 2011, 03:02:04 PM
Spoiler

okay so here's what I got. Tried to make it singable, I'm familiar with this song (and can play most if not all on guitar, I know a lot of Metallica's stuff on guitar )

\\\

sim fìtxan ke tsranten ngimpup
ta txe'lan nì'ul ke tsun livu
frakrr [trust] sutet a awnga lu
ayu alahe ke tsranten

Kawkrr piak ke säpi fìfya
tìrey lu awngey, ha tsafya rey
faylì'ut oel ke peng nì'aw
ayu alahe ke tsranten

[Trust]it fwew ulte oel ngamì run
Fratrr awngaru lu 'uo amip
sìketengpfi ronsem lu piak
ayu alahe ke tsranten

Spoiler
kawkrr ke sunu aylì'u fey
kawkrr ke sunu ayuvan fey
kawkrr ke sunu ayhem fey oer
kawkrr ke sunu fwa fol omum
ulte omum oel

does that work better? I tried xD

Blue Elf · June 24, 2011, 01:32:35 AM

Good job, ma Tirea

I only want to add this:
"So close, no matter how far. - Ha lok, ke tsranten peyfa alìm. - So close, doesn't matters how far"
is not correct, as pefya (not peyfa

) is questionable pronoun and can't be used this way. This is only grammar note, as TA translated it better already.

Plumps · June 24, 2011, 04:53:29 AM

Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 23, 2011, 03:18:31 PM
I'm very eager for a word for "trust(vt)" and "to care(vi) for / to care(vi) about / to have a care(n) / caring(adj)"

Ah, aren't we all waiting for it?

'trust' was on the Feb list ... 'care' is needed indeed. First meaning could be covered with vewng, maybe?

Tirea Aean · June 24, 2011, 07:20:10 AM

Quote from: Blue Elf on June 24, 2011, 01:32:35 AM
Good job, ma Tirea

I only want to add this:
"So close, no matter how far. - Ha lok, ke tsranten peyfa alìm. - So close, doesn't matters how far"
is not correct, as pefya (not peyfa ) is questionable pronoun and can't be used this way. This is only grammar note, as TA translated it better already.

yeah, taht's why I didnt leave that as it was. also, ha is like tse and ìì where I felt like "so close" is more a job for fìtxan

Quote from: Plumps on June 24, 2011, 04:53:29 AM
Quote from: Tirea Aean on June 23, 2011, 03:18:31 PM
I'm very eager for a word for "trust(vt)" and "to care(vi) for / to care(vi) about / to have a care(n) / caring(adj)"

Ah, aren't we all waiting for it?
'trust' was on the Feb list ... 'care' is needed indeed. First meaning could be covered with vewng, maybe?

I saw that. someone PMd me whether it was okay to re-hash it with a different word since the old one from 31 Jan didnt make it.

I'm currently thinking about vewng being to care. I think it can only mean that in the situation where you are to "care for the wellbeing of _____" or possibly even to "take care of ___"

The care here is of indifference and apathy, I think. "I don't care what you think!"