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Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« on: December 29, 2015, 08:36:10 pm »
I tried translate my favourite song Remember Me from Troy soundtrack:
(I am not sure with some things, all comments are welcome)


Ngal zerok, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti, ngeyä  'okmì

Ngal zerok, krra ngeyä ayunil 'i'a li
Tsun livätxayn krrti
Nì’aw ngal zerok oet

Oe lu tanhì a nrr nìtxanatan
Fì'u lu tora atan, a tìng tseng eo tsawkeyä atan

Oe lu hu nga
Frakrr krra ngal peng oeyä vurit
Tì’i’avay krrä ...

Ngal zerok, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti, ngeyä  ‘okmì
Ngal zerok oet

Oe lu mokri mì wewa hufwe a tsìsyì nìtìfnunga'
Krra nga tìng mikyun, ngal stayawm oeti a syaw tawka

Tsafya txankrr pxel oe tsun wivo nga ulte 'ampi ngat
Mawkrr oe ke terkup kawkrr

Ngal zerok, oel ke txìng ngati
Nìäw krra nga ...
Ngal zerok oeti

Ngal zerok oeti
Ngal zerok ko, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti
Ngeyä mì ok

Ngal zerok, krra ngeyä ayunil ’i’a li
Tsun livätxayn krrti
Oe rey krrä tì'i'avay
Ngal zerok oeti

Ngal zerok oeti
Ngal zerok ... oeti



Original song (English)
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 07:06:52 am by Kamailehope »

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2015, 09:01:46 pm »
Fìtìralpeng sì fìrol lu txantsan :D


Edit: Looks like it's another song by our deceased James Horner. ;)

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2015, 07:13:34 am »
Irayo ma Vawmataw  :)


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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2015, 08:33:13 am »
I'd just go with z(iv)erok oeti, imperative. With ngal it sounds more like a simple statement.  :-\

Tsafya txankrr pxel oe tsun wivo nga ulte 'ampi ngat - tengkrr oe tsun wivo sì 'ivampi ngat ???
Ngal zerok ko, oel ke tsìng ngati - Ziverok futa oel ke txìng ngat kawkrr
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 08:36:20 am by Eana Unil »

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2015, 08:43:32 am »
Irayo ma Eana Unil  :)

So you think that Ziverok oeti will be better than Ngal zerok oeti?

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2015, 08:47:21 am »
Sran, fì'ut fpìl oel. ;) "Remember me" is a request/demand, otherwise you'd say "you remember me", which is more like a statement, telling what's going on rather than what you want to happen or what you want that person to do. Same with the translation leNa'vi, while the <iv> makes the imperative less "harsh", imho at least.

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2015, 08:57:27 am »
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I think ngal zerok is weird and/or incorrect.
Have you any idea for better translation. I don't know ...  :-\
Simply nga zerok or sometimes ziverok ko.

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2015, 09:00:24 am »
I translate nga zerok as you remember and ziverok ko as let's remember  :-\ ??? Both not meaning remember me... but ziverok ko could be another solution which would make sense nonetheless, since it's not always used as "let's xyz"
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 09:03:55 am by Eana Unil »

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2015, 09:05:23 am »
I translate nga zerok as you remember and ziverok ko as let's remember  :-\ ??? Both not meaning remember me...
Well, I think we would need the English lyrics. ;)

English lyrics are here:

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2015, 09:13:38 am »
Ok, well, I would remove every ko and use the subjunctive.

About Ngal zerok oet VS Ziverok oet: I have no problem with the latter, but I would also appreciate Ngal ziverok oet.

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Re: Ngal Zerok Oeti (Remember Me)
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2015, 09:39:42 am »
Irayo ma mesmuk  :) I decided use Ngal ziverok oet/oeti (as Vawmataw said)
+ I used: Tsafya txankrr pxel oe tsun wivo nga ulte 'ampi ngat - tengkrr oe tsun wivo sì 'ivampi ngat (as Eana Unil said)


Ngal ziverok, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti, ngeyä  'okmì

Ngal ziverok, krra ngeyä ayunil 'i'a li
Tsun livätxayn krrti
Nì’aw ngal zerok oet

Oe lu tanhì a nrr nìtxanatan
Fì'u lu tora atan, a tìng tseng eo tsawkeyä atan

Oe lu hu nga
Frakrr krra ngal peng oeyä vurit
Tì’i’avay krrä ...

Ngal ziverok, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti, ngeyä  'okmì
Ngal ziverok oet

Oe lu mokri mì wewa hufwe a tsìsyì nìtìfnunga'
Krra nga tìng mikyun, ngal stayawm oeti a syaw tawka

Tengkrr oe tsun wivo sì 'ivampi ngat
Mawkrr oe ke terkup kawkrr

Ngal ziverok, oel kawkrr ke txìng ngati
Nìäw krra nga ...
Ngal ziverok oeti

Ngal ziverok oeti
Ngal ziverok, oe tayok nìtut fìtsengeti
Tsafya txankrr pxel ngal fmal oeti
Ngeyä mì ok

Ngal ziverok, krra ngeyä ayunil ’i’a li
Tsun livätxayn krrti
Oe rey krrä tì'i'avay
Ngal ziverok oeti

Ngal ziverok oeti
Ngal ziverok ... oeti
« Last Edit: December 30, 2015, 09:52:02 am by Kamailehope »

 

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