The song about the story of Avatar

[Blue Elf]

Look at when this was written The time factor slowly starts to play a role in Na'vi That's an explanation for the 'older' forms of fkew and tutan (we simply didn't know it back then).

hayawnu comes from hawnu => h‹ay›awnu
Is it clearer now?

Ok, I understand it all. Please don't consider my notes to be a critique, I am very new here and texts with words in older forms sometimes puts me into problems, so I just ask for comments.
Hayawnu is clear now - how I could not to see the infix? I didn't learn enough yet ...

Irayo for explanation.

[Plumps]

Back then in the old days we weren't that good, I thing there are many mistakes, which we weren't aware of.

You know how that makes us sound? Like old, very old Na'vi, sitting around the camp fire, eating grandma's teylu and thinking about the 'good ol' days'

Ok, I understand it all. Please don't consider my notes to be a critique, I am very new here and texts with words in older forms sometimes puts me into problems, so I just ask for comments.
Hayawnu is clear now - how I could not to see the infix? I didn't learn enough yet ...

Irayo for explanation.

No problem We're all here to learn ... and it is actually something I find so remarkable with the songs nìNa'vi – they have an educational factor to them, if you will. People try to sing along, pronounce it, try to translate and understand it. I can't think of a better way to learn vocabulary than learning through song! It's amazing and I think it's good if this spawns grammatical questions or comprehension questions about vocab.

I think that's better than the 'dry' vocab list

[Blue Elf]

No problem We're all here to learn ... and it is actually something I find so remarkable with the songs nìNa'vi – they have an educational factor to them, if you will. People try to sing along, pronounce it, try to translate and understand it. I can't think of a better way to learn vocabulary than learning through song! It's amazing and I think it's good if this spawns grammatical questions or comprehension questions about vocab.

I think that's better than the 'dry' vocab list

I agree completely, songs are good for learning. I tried to use this method when I was learning English - wasn't too sucessfull.
But it works well for me in Na'vi. I even can sing some songs - but there must be no people near me, I'm bad rolyu

BTW - can you ask your grandmother for the teylu recipe? I'm interest in it

[Neyn'ite Te Tsahìk Txeptsyìp'ite]

where can I find the chords? I can't find the link in which you say they are.

this is beautiful, great job you two.

[Blue Elf]

Go to the first post in this thread, click to Spoiler and you see them...

[Neyn'ite Te Tsahìk Txeptsyìp'ite]

irayo nìtxan

[Blue Elf]

Kaltxì,
I'd like to ask some more question about the text. Finally I finished Czech translation, but there are some unclear things, even when I know that song was written very long time ago. So:
- polähem alìma mìhifkey - meaning is clear (I arrived into distant world), but what is surprising is preposition connected directly to noun without space. It was possible in the past? I think it could be safely moved into back side of noun (alìma kifkeymì) or maybe better before attribute (mì alìma kifkey). Correct?
- Oeri fa lamenari tse'a kifkeyit - meaning also clear (Regarding to me, I see the world using (my) eyes), but what la- prefix mean? I didn't found anything about it in current documents
- Ayoeng ke txasyìng fa tìftxey - probably missing f here, and I'm not sure if I understand this sentence well. I think it means: "We have no selection" (or something like that), srake?
- and the last: oel 'ìsyì'awn fìtsengit, rä'ä ne'ìm kä nìmun kamä Eywayä nari kxamlä - is it "I will stay here, won't go back through center of Eywa's eye" ?

Irayo si.

[Plumps]

- polähem alìma mìhifkey - meaning is clear (I arrived into distant world), but what is surprising is preposition connected directly to noun without space. It was possible in the past? I think it could be safely moved into back side of noun (alìma kifkeymì) or maybe better before attribute (mì alìma kifkey). Correct?

Well, in poetry ... almost everything is allowed
Connecting the ADP to the noun is a mistake. Your examples are correct.

- Oeri fa lamenari tse'a kifkeyit - meaning also clear (Regarding to me, I see the world using (my) eyes), but what la- prefix mean? I didn't found anything about it in current documents

I think this was derived from lapo < lahe. For a long time there was the idea that we could freely attach la- to any noun, to mean 'other xyz' => "I see the world with different eyes" (we didn't have the word keteng back then)

- Ayoeng ke txasyìng fa tìftxey - probably missing f here, and I'm not sure if I understand this sentence well. I think it means: "We have no selection" (or something like that), srake?

No, this is actually a translation error that occured in the first weeks/months. Because txey had a number of possible translations in German and no example was available, we listed as many translation possibilties. I think the intended meaning is something along the lines of "we will not leave out of free will" ... but I'm not sure anymore It's been too long and too much has changed. Maybe Talis or KifkeyTìranyu will remember.

- and the last: oel 'ìsyì'awn fìtsengit, rä'ä ne'ìm kä nìmun kamä Eywayä nari kxamlä - is it "I will stay here, won't go back through center of Eywa's eye" ?

"{I} intend to remain here (notice, wrong transitivity), won't go back again (notice: wrong use of negation), {I} went through the Eye of Eywa."

[Talis]

Damn Plumps was faster then me

well... I got some different things here, maybe ^^
maybe it'll help you, too.

mìhifkey

tipping-error?

Ayoeng ke txasyìng fa tìftxey

we don't abandon with stopping (them) ~ not sure but I think it was meant to say: "We won't stop stopping them" ~ "we will not surrender, we will stop them"

[Plumps]

Ayoeng ke txasyìng fa tìftxey

we don't abandon with stopping (them) ~ not sure but I think it was meant to say: "We won't stop stopping them" ~ "we will not surrender, we will stop them"

You're right. I remember, the confusion came from the 'abandon' part... ah, those were the days

Nice Even the singer of the song doesn't know anymore
Oel ayngaru srese'a futa this will be something like Beowulf or Die Niebelungen – and older form of Na'vi In a few years, nobody will understand what is actually sung in the song ... but the meaning will prevail

[Talis]

In a few years, nobody will understand what is actually sung in the song ... but the meaning will prevail

right you are

oh and by the way... I found a German translation from the 13th of April 2010 - there it says (very freely translated) "wir werden nicht aufgeben sie aufzuhalten."
but back then, we knew what it should mean better than now I think, so this should be right 

[Blue Elf]

- and the last: oel 'ìsyì'awn fìtsengit, rä'ä ne'ìm kä nìmun kamä Eywayä nari kxamlä - is it "I will stay here, won't go back through center of Eywa's eye" ?
"{I} intend to remain here (notice, wrong transitivity), won't go back again (notice: wrong use of negation), {I} went through the Eye of Eywa."

Oh, my mistake too - I rewrote text from PC to paper to be able to do translation offline (in my bed ), but typo occured, what changed meaning a lot (ka instead kä, so verb changed to preposition, grrr). Without this, I maybe would understand better. Mistakes in text aren't too important as I don't see them all and meaning can be guessed easily

oh and by the way... I found a German translation from the 13th of April 2010 - there it says (very freely translated) "We won't give up stopping them"

Yes, it gives good meaning now...

but back then, we knew what it should mean better than now I think, so this should be right 

What about correcting the mistakes and release Song about Avatar v.2 ?

Thanks for explanation ulte mengaru livu txon lefpom.

[hemmond]

Moved to Pamtseo nìNa'vi Nì'aw. It deserves it.