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Offline Ta'em tskxe

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A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« on: December 24, 2009, 07:06:42 am »
Hey all,
So we all know

Oel ngati kameie -> I you see (good)

"I" being the subject, "You" being the object. Meaning the subject is doing something to the object.
I think that's right?

So....
Whats the difference between the following?

Oel ngati kamänge - I you see (bad)

Oel ngati kekame - I you see not


Irayo.
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This describes my ikran flying style, it may also contain greater meaning.
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2009, 01:28:00 pm »
äng doesn't negate the verb, just shows disgust/distaste towards that action while ke just negates the verb.

I see you, and it revolts me
vs.
I don't see you
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2009, 03:42:57 pm »
I see.

So technically both could be seen as an insult? :)
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2009, 03:44:15 pm »
Yes, and I'm not sure which one would be the worse insult.
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2009, 09:08:53 pm »
well if you look at their culture then i don't see you would (in my opinion) be a bigger insult because you don't recognize them as part of the na'vi people but if viewed with a non-na'vi mind set like "i don't see you because you are behind that rock" then the other form would be more insulting.
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2009, 09:11:22 pm »
well if you look at their culture then i don't see you would (in my opinion) be a bigger insult because you don't recognize them as part of the na'vi people but if viewed with a non-na'vi mind set like "i don't see you because you are behind that rock" then the other form would be more insulting.
Right, "I don't see you" is a bad enough insult as it is.  But to say "I see you" and imply your dislike/disgust for the fact that you DO see them?  That seems like it's a pretty bad insult too.

I guess the first could be seen as "I don't even accept your existence" while the second is more like "I really don't like you, but I have to at least acknowledge you by custom".
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Re: A few questions about playing with "I see you"..
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2009, 09:37:21 pm »
couldn't have said it better myself
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