A few questions about playing with "I see you"..

[Ta'em tskxe]

Hey all,
So we all know

Oel ngati kameie -> I you see (good)

"I" being the subject, "You" being the object. Meaning the subject is doing something to the object.
I think that's right?

So....
Whats the difference between the following?

Oel ngati kamänge - I you see (bad)

Oel ngati kekame - I you see not


Irayo.

[omängum fra'uti]

äng doesn't negate the verb, just shows disgust/distaste towards that action while ke just negates the verb.

I see you, and it revolts me
vs.
I don't see you

[Ta'em tskxe]

I see.

So technically both could be seen as an insult?

[omängum fra'uti]

Yes, and I'm not sure which one would be the worse insult.

[tute nuereime]

well if you look at their culture then i don't see you would (in my opinion) be a bigger insult because you don't recognize them as part of the na'vi people but if viewed with a non-na'vi mind set like "i don't see you because you are behind that rock" then the other form would be more insulting.

[omängum fra'uti]

well if you look at their culture then i don't see you would (in my opinion) be a bigger insult because you don't recognize them as part of the na'vi people but if viewed with a non-na'vi mind set like "i don't see you because you are behind that rock" then the other form would be more insulting.

Right, "I don't see you" is a bad enough insult as it is.  But to say "I see you" and imply your dislike/disgust for the fact that you DO see them?  That seems like it's a pretty bad insult too.

I guess the first could be seen as "I don't even accept your existence" while the second is more like "I really don't like you, but I have to at least acknowledge you by custom".

[tute nuereime]

couldn't have said it better myself