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Correlatives: krr and kem

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Wllìm:
tsat is the shortened form of tsa'ut, which is the patientive (t-form) of tsa'u that thing. (tsa- is a prefix meaning that; you can apply it to any word like utral tree> tsautral that tree).

So, for example

oel tse'a tsat
= oel tse'a tsa'ut
I see that thing

Similarly you have tsaw for tsa'u, tsal for tsa'ul, and so on. All of these are actually forms of 'u.

wm.annis:

--- Quote from: Mech on January 12, 2018, 08:42:56 am ---I wish we could know (and perhaps it would provide more insight) if Pawl borrowed the idea from a natural language that separates this-action from this-object
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I'm not aware of any language that has forms exactly like the kem column in the Na'vi correlative table. However, there are languages that have anaphoric verbs that mean things like "do this, do that, do what?" My guess is that once he created something like kempe si nga? (this is in film dialog), the rest followed naturally.

It's not too hard to come up with a situation where 'u and kem can make clear what exactly is going on —

A: Ninat pamtseo si fa wokau. Ninat is playing the pendulum drum.

Two possible replies:

B: Ke sunu oer tsa'u. I don't like that (that particular drum) vs.
B: Ke sunu oer tsakem I don't like that (what's happening)

But I agree it might be nice to have an idea how much we should expect the kem forms to be used outside the si constructions.

Blue Elf:

--- Quote from: Mech on January 11, 2018, 04:49:35 pm ---I confess that it is something I haven't grasped well since I first heard about Na'vi. Where can we use expressions like "this action", "that action", and why are they so common in Na'vi alongside "here" and "then" and "why"?

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IMHO main function of tsakem/fìkem is in connection with si - the only way to say "do that" is Tsakem si (not * kem si tsakemur). But of course it can be used alone, like in Fìkem ke sunu oer (I don't like this action)


--- Quote ---Just to compare kem with other ‘broad’ words. Firstly, there's 'u thing. As far as I understand it, 'u can describe basically anything, that is, physical objects, actions, emotions, and so on.
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by definition, 'u is thing (object, fact, abstraction), so it is not action. If it would, what is difference between 'u and kem? Also I would not use it for event, as we have tìlen. I understand action as something what someone does. Event is something what happens without anyone's action.

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