Creating words with tì- + <us>

Started by Blue Elf, April 05, 2012, 03:22:56 AM

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Blue Elf

As we know, we can create verbal nouns form the verb by adding tì- prefix and <us> infix.
But interesting question is, what must be form of the verb being "processed". With no doubt, base form can used:

hahaw -> tì-h<us>ahaw -> sleeping

But can the verb contain any other infixes? Alyara Arati used in The book of Ruth (part 4, sentence 7) this:
Tìvusewngìri sì tìleykusatemìri lolu fya'o ftawnemkrr Israelmì fte mivllte fra'uteri fko; tutanìl 'ivaku hawnven peyä ulte tivìng fì'ut tutanur alahe: ulte fìfya lolu koren Israelmì.
l<eyk>atem -> tì-l<eyk><us>atem

is something like this possible (and meaningful)? How it would differ from tìlusatem?
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


wm.annis

Quote from: Blue Elf on April 05, 2012, 03:22:56 AMis something like this possible (and meaningful)? How it would differ from tìlusatem?

The transitivity infixes, ‹äp› and ‹eyk›, are often better thought of as lexical affixes that change the meaning of the word.  So, latem and leykatem mean quite different things — one is "change" the other is "cause to change," the difference between "the weather is changing" and "I am changing the weather."

I can see no reason why this combination would not be possible, and it is definitely meaningful, though the difference between tìlusatem and tìleykusatem is difficult to convey neatly in English.  The first refers to things changing on their own, the second to the act of altering something else.