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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2013, 09:47:36 am »
Ma Tirea Aean,

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        -a- This means the adjective is paired with the noun directly before it (to the left).
This is not only left, it's left or right. -> before or after (to the left or right). ;)

Look again. In the prefixes section, I put it, and in the Suffixes section I put it again. Because it can be used as both. I put the appropriate description in both places. :)

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About ke-
I write this in the German version:
Quote from: Update:
    Nur für Adjektive :

        -a- Dies markiert ein Adjektiv, das ein Substantiv beschreibt, wobei das -a- zum jeweilig nächsten Substantiv zeigt.
        nì- Dies wandelt ein Adjektiv in ein Adverb um. Es ist ähnlich wie im englischen -ly.

        ke- Dies wird benutzt, um ein negatives/gegenteiliges Adjektiv zu erzeugen. Beispiel: teng "gleich" - keteng "ungleich" / eyawr "wahr" - keyawr "unwahr"
             Wichtig! Adjektive die bereits ein negativen Pendant im Wörterbuch haben, dürfen nicht mit ke- verwendet werden! Es gibt auch im Deutschen kein *ungroß oder *unalt.
             Beachte: Bei Adjektive mit le- verschmilzt ke- mit le- zu kel- -> lekin "nötig" - kelkin "unnötig".
                          Achtung: *kele- > kel-, es sei denn, eine unzulässige Konsonantengruppe würde entstehen. In diesem Fall bleibt kele-. Beispiel: kelemweypey "sich nicht gedulden, ungeduldig"

    Nur für Adverbien :

        nìk- Gebildet aus nì- + ke- wird benutzt, um negative Adverbien zu erzeugen.
             Beispiele: kelkin "unnötigerweise" <- In diesem Beispiel wurde nì- auf ein negativen Adjektiv hinzugefügt, um eine negatives Adverb zu bilden.
                            nìktungzup "vorsichtig, fest" <- Hier wurde nì- auf ein negativen Verb hinzugefügt: nì- + (ke + tungzup "fallen lassen") = nìktungzup Das "e" fällt weg.

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    For adjectives only :

        -a- This means the adjective is paired with the noun directly before or after (to the left or right).
        nì- This is productive to turn an adjective into an adverb. It's similar to English -ly ending.

        ke- This is used to create a negative or opposite adjective. E.g.: teng "same, equal" - keteng "different, not equal" / eyawr "correct" - keyawr "incorrect"
             Important! Adjectives that already have a negative counterpart in the dictionary should not be used with ke-! Just as in English we don't have *unyoung, *unold, *unbig.
             Note: For adjectives with le- merges ke- with le- to kel- -> lekin "necessary" - kelkin "unnecessary".
                          Attention: *kele- > kel-, unless it would create an impermissible consonant cluster, in which case it remains kele-. E.g.: kelemweypey "impatient"

    For adverbs only :

        nìk- Created by nì- + ke- is used to create negative adverbs.
             Examples: kelkin "unnecessarily" <- In this example nì- is added to a negative adjective to create a negative adverb.
                            nìktungzup "carefully, firmly" <- Here was nì- added to a negative verb: nì- + (ke + tungzup "drop, let fall") = nìktungzup The "e" drops away.

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        [b]ke-[/b] This is used to create a negative or opposite adjective. E.g.: [b]teng[/b] "same, equal" - [b][color=brown]ke[/color]teng[/b] "different, not equal" / [b]eyawr[/b] "correct" - [b][color=brown]ke[/color]yawr[/b] "incorrect"
             [u]Important![/u] Adjectives that already have a negative counterpart in the dictionary [u]should not[/u] be used with [b]ke-[/b]! Just as in English we don't have [i]*unyoung[/i], [i]*unold[/i], [i]*unbig[/i].
             [u]Note:[/u] For adjectives with [b]le-[/b] merges [b]ke-[/b] with [b]le-[/b] to [b]kel-[/b] -> [b]lekin[/b] "necessary" - [b][color=brown]kel[/color]kin[/b] "unnecessary".
                          [b]Attention:[/b] [i][color=maroon]*kele-[/color][/i] [b]> kel-[/b], unless it would create an impermissible consonant cluster, [u]in which case it remains [b]kele-[/b][/u]. E.g.: [b][color=brown]kele[/color]mweypey[/b] "impatient"

    [b][u]For adverbs only[/u][/b] :

        [b]nìk-[/b] Created by [b]nì-[/b] + [b]ke-[/b] is used to create negative adverbs.
             [b]Examples:[/b] [b][color=brown]nì[/color]kelkin[/b] "unnecessarily" <- In this example [b]nì-[/b] is added to a negative adjective to create a negative adverb.
                            [b][color=brown]nìk[/color]tungzup[/b] "carefully, firmly" <- Here was [b]nì-[/b] added to a negative verb: [b]nì-[/b] + ([b]ke[/b] + [b]tungzup[/b] "drop, let fall") = [b][color=brown]nìk[/color]tungzup[/b] The "e" drops away.

as for the rest, added. Irayo nìtxan. :D

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2013, 09:53:25 am »
Ma Tirea Aean,

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       -a- This means the adjective is paired with the noun directly before it (to the left).
This is not only left, it's left or right. -> before or after (to the left or right). ;)

Look again. In the prefixes section, I put it, and in the Suffixes section I put it again. Because it can be used as both. I put the appropriate description in both places. :)
Oh, I didn't see it...
So, you just remove the red marked line: -a- ...


as for the rest, added. Irayo nìtxan. :D
Kea tìkin. :D

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2013, 08:52:00 pm »
OK good call. Done.

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #83 on: September 25, 2013, 10:55:51 am »
Ma Tirea Aean, I think this is missing in your guide:

...in the nouns and pronouns only section:
munsna- Used to say a pair of something. Example: munsnahawnven - a pair of shoes

bb-code:
[b]munsna-[/b] Used to say a pair of something. Example: [b][color=blue]munsna[/color]hawnven[/b] - a pair of shoes

 :) ;)
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #84 on: September 25, 2013, 12:47:11 pm »
Ma Tirea Aean, I think this is missing in your guide:

...in the nouns and pronouns only section:
munsna- Used to say a pair of something. Example: munsnahawnven - a pair of shoes

bb-code:
[b]munsna-[/b] Used to say a pair of something. Example: [b][color=blue]munsna[/color]hawnven[/b] - a pair of shoes

 :) ;)

Actually, it's not so much that munsna- is missing, because this is [mune and sna-].  However sna- is missing, which is productive when used with a grouping of living things other than people.  (Not productive for non-living things.)

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #85 on: September 25, 2013, 12:51:52 pm »
^This.
sna- is missed too! Irayo ma Taronyu Leleioae!

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #86 on: September 26, 2013, 03:53:31 pm »
Will put in for sna and munsna.

Karma to you both. :D

Done.
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #87 on: September 26, 2013, 04:00:01 pm »
Irayo!

Edit:
You broke a code:
Example: sna
[/blue]nantang - pack of viperwolves ;)
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #88 on: September 26, 2013, 04:00:39 pm »
Irayo!
You broke a code:

Edit:
Example: sna[/blue]nantang - pack of viperwolves ;)

fixed before you posted this. ;D ::)

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #89 on: September 26, 2013, 04:04:21 pm »
Ninja'd by 55 seconds! ;D

Well done, ma Tirea! :D
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #90 on: October 09, 2013, 03:04:17 am »
Ma Tirea, you probably add a short note about nì- here.
Read more info here. ;)

Edit, well, you did that, hrh!
Attention with the exceptions like nìean...


I have let change this guide a little bit:


All Current Not Productive Affixes :

    Prefixes :

        sä- instrumental noun deriving affix. numeri oe nume. I learn the teaching.
        tì- noun deriving affix. ngay sìltsan lu. The truth is good.
        le- adjective deriving affix. Poan lehrrap lu. He is dangerous.
        kaw- not one deriving affix. Oe kawkrr ke kamä. I never went.

    Suffixes :

        -an masculine suffix for certain nouns. Example: Poan täftxuyu lu. He is a weaver.
        -e feminine suffix for certain nouns: Poe taronyu lu. She is a hunter.
        -vi partitive relationship marker: Oe nume mì numtsengvi. I learn in the classroom.
        -lo multiplicative number suffix for ’aw, mune, pxey: ’Awlo oe ramol. Once I sang.
        -nay creates a new noun that is related to the original by being a step down in some relevant heirarchy - size, rank, accomplishment, etc.: Example, ikran -> ikranay
        -nga’ adjective deriving affix. ’Akra apaynga’ lu. It is moist soil.
        -tu person noun from non-verbal stem deriving affix. Oe reltseotu lu. I am an artist.



Edits:
 - fixed some lines and formattings
 - added all not productive affixes to complete this guide

Thanks Markì to makes it possible to updating this! :)


Because some wanted one, here is a pdf version:
Download
 :) ;)
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #91 on: April 14, 2014, 03:26:39 pm »
AH! So Toruk Makto has been updating this on my behalf. :D Thanks so much!

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #92 on: April 14, 2014, 03:27:34 pm »
You could add that lind of the file version to the Op too. :)

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #93 on: June 01, 2014, 10:48:32 am »
Quote from: This suffix is not productive:
        –sena  X-sena is an object that specifically carries or contains X, like this example paysena water container.

Quote from: Mipa Aylì’u, Mipa Aysäfpìl—New Words, New Ideas
Sähena can also be used as a suffix, in which case it contracts to –sena. X-sena is an object that specifically carries or contains X.
This suffix is not productive—that is, in general you’re not free to coin your own –sena words; you have to find them in the lexicon.

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #94 on: June 01, 2014, 02:19:46 pm »
Quote from: This suffix is not productive:
        –sena  X-sena is an object that specifically carries or contains X, like this example paysena water container.

Quote from: Mipa Aylì’u, Mipa Aysäfpìl—New Words, New Ideas
Sähena can also be used as a suffix, in which case it contracts to –sena. X-sena is an object that specifically carries or contains X.
This suffix is not productive—that is, in general you’re not free to coin your own –sena words; you have to find them in the lexicon.

I thought I didn't add non-productive ones in here..  :-\

EDIT: Nevermind, I see you added a NOT PRODUCTIVE section...

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #95 on: June 01, 2014, 03:06:21 pm »
Well, I added them, because there was once a discussion...I can't remember me where...
I added them, extra as "last section" and it's written in red color ...not productive... They should know them too.

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #96 on: June 01, 2014, 08:31:03 pm »
Well, I added them, because there was once a discussion...I can't remember me where...
I added them, extra as "last section" and it's written in red color ...not productive... They should know them too.

No objection. :)

And of course after seeing that, I added the new suffix in and did some minor edits also.

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #97 on: June 01, 2014, 10:55:45 pm »
And of course after seeing that, I added the new suffix in and did some minor edits also.
What did you change? :-\ Because of this:
Because some wanted one, here is a pdf version:
Download
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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #98 on: June 02, 2014, 09:20:01 am »
You probably found it by now. ;) I don't remember exactly everything that was changed, but I made notes of all note-worthy changes at the bottom.

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Re: Easy Guide to Na'vi Prefixes, Infixes, and Suffixes II
« Reply #99 on: June 02, 2014, 10:32:48 am »
O! I'm blind! :o

I see what you did there! And it is a NICE idea which I used to the German version too, plus I added it to the files as well. :) :D

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