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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2010, 10:25:08 am »
While reading through an interview, i found this example of infixes, “tovaron, telaron, tusaron, tairon” I do not believe that i have seen <ov> or <ai> anywhere, although there is no reference as to in what way these change the verb, we can say for certain that these are infixes.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2010, 11:33:00 am »
As far as I know, we haven't got anywhere with trying to find out what those mean.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2010, 11:54:47 am »
While reading through an interview, i found this example of infixes, “tovaron, telaron, tusaron, tairon” I do not believe that i have seen <ov> or <ai> anywhere,

I would take care with that list — tairon, for example, breaks the rules we do know.

The guy who did that interview didn't seem very linguistically sophisticated, and apparently didn't bother to get Frommer to verify spellings from what I assume was a phone interview.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #63 on: January 29, 2010, 04:58:04 am »
I'm trying to work out what the -ur suffix indicates on the word for "friends" which appears in the letter from Prof. Frommer.

If 'eylan is the noun: friend, then ay-eylan-ur would be the plural friends with the -ur suffix indicating something.
What does -ur indicate, I don't think that it is one I've seen before, I don't see that affix in the Inflections.pdf, or in this thread.

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #64 on: January 29, 2010, 01:27:57 pm »
New affix. Dative. Allomorph of -r, -ru.

Fairly certain. Keep meaning to update my document.

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #65 on: February 05, 2010, 02:41:40 pm »
update: added -r
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #66 on: February 05, 2010, 03:40:21 pm »
I'm trying to work out what the -ur suffix indicates on the word for "friends" which appears in the letter from Prof. Frommer.

If 'eylan is the noun: friend, then ay-eylan-ur would be the plural friends with the -ur suffix indicating something.
What does -ur indicate, I don't think that it is one I've seen before, I don't see that affix in the Inflections.pdf, or in this thread.


-ur is the dative suffix when following a word ending in a consonant (like 'eylan).

The dative case generally means that the English translation involves/can be rewritten to involve "to ___".

It is commonly used with the verb to give (tìng) to indicate the recipient, to be (lu) to indicate a possessor and to seem (lam IIRC) to indicator the supposer.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #67 on: February 09, 2010, 02:12:25 pm »
Hey guys,

I took the stuff from the first post, tidied up the grammar etc and added some more examples to the fixes.

If there's anything wrong, needs changing/adding let me know.

http://rapidshare.com/files/348346907/word_fixes.pdf

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #68 on: February 10, 2010, 04:30:36 am »
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can anyone help me with the prefix fì- , ive seen it a few times in the na'vi only board on words like fìplltxe.tsengi (speak . place {forum} i think)
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #69 on: February 10, 2010, 07:24:19 am »
can anyone help me with the prefix fì- , ive seen it a few times in the na'vi only board on words like fìplltxe.tsengi (speak . place {forum} i think)

It means this.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #70 on: February 10, 2010, 01:59:17 pm »
Irayo, Oeri Tsmukan. this was quite helpful... Right up until I started reading the replies. lol. though when i got done with that, it made sense again.

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #71 on: February 14, 2010, 09:12:45 am »
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tu:indicates a person associated with the verb. hunt with tu becomes prey (or hunter also?)

Is it really possible that "tarontu" can also mean "hunter" ? I thought that was taken care of by the "yu", taronyu?
Just like spe'e = capture --> spe'etu = captive, spe'eyu = captor.
I mean it would make little sense if a word was that ambigious.

Oh yeah, and why not add the infix -äp- to the list? Or are we not adding stuff from emails?
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #72 on: February 14, 2010, 09:34:41 am »
-us- used to indicate when a verb is used as an adjective. sleeping dogs, flying birds. the words are still verbs but they are used to describe a noun.


If we use  - us - with a verb and make it an adjective

do we say h<us>ahaw tute or h<us>ahaw-a tute ( or tute a-h<us>ahaw) ?

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #73 on: February 14, 2010, 09:58:38 am »
If we use  - us - with a verb and make it an adjective

do we say h<us>ahaw tute or h<us>ahaw-a tute ( or tute a-h<us>ahaw) ?

for sleeping human

We got clarification about this just in the last day.  You use the attribute marker -a-, so h‹us›ahawa tute.

Also, note that tute is person, not human.  It presumably applies to Na'vi and Human alike.
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #74 on: February 14, 2010, 11:22:33 am »
If we use  - us - with a verb and make it an adjective

do we say h<us>ahaw tute or h<us>ahaw-a tute ( or tute a-h<us>ahaw) ?

for sleeping human

We got clarification about this just in the last day.  You use the attribute marker -a-, so h‹us›ahawa tute.

Also, note that tute is person, not human.  It preusumably applies to Na'vi and Human alike.

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You're right. I was going to type tawtute which is human but i change it then i forgot to change the meaning :)
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #75 on: February 19, 2010, 11:59:02 am »
i haven't been online in a while so if someone could post or message me a list of what is missing i will add it to the front page. thanks
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #76 on: February 27, 2010, 01:37:27 am »
This is great! I was wondering now that I'm making sentences (bad but still somewhat intelligible!) how to form possessives, plurals and all that.

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #77 on: March 01, 2010, 11:37:57 am »
Can we get this thread either updated and corrected or deleted please?

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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2010, 07:50:52 pm »
i have been trying to get online but with multiple projects and reports i have been busy. it would be easy if i had a list of corrections but i will try to update it today. so far my list consists of adding
-ur-
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Re: easy guide to the suffixes, infixes, and prefixes of Na'Vi
« Reply #79 on: March 15, 2010, 05:20:44 pm »
Why was this unstickied? This is a very useful topic.


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