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Infix positions
« on: February 14, 2011, 07:43:13 am »
Do we have all infix positions for all verbs somewhere?
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2011, 08:11:32 am »
Some mid-dots in IPA of the dictionary.. or something missed?
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2011, 08:18:43 am »
Well now I feel like a complete skxawng.. ehehe  :P
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2011, 08:35:01 am »
If you want it, I have compiled a document with all verbs and their known infix positions … it’s in the editing process right now but I can give it to you.

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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2011, 08:48:43 am »
If you want it, I have compiled a document with all verbs and their known infix positions … it’s in the editing process right now but I can give it to you.
Yes please :)
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2011, 09:17:14 am »
"The Concise Na'vi Dictionary" is quite useful for finding like this ;)
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2011, 09:53:51 am »
If you want it, I have compiled a document with all verbs and their known infix positions … it’s in the editing process right now but I can give it to you.
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All of the explanations and translations are in German, but I think you’ll enjoy that too ;)

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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2011, 01:32:44 pm »
Really useful document, I'll be taking it now, irayo :D

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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2011, 02:42:54 pm »
Thank you Plumps  :)
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2011, 04:34:47 pm »
I'd like to ask: how many infixes can be used in one verb? I thought that three is maximum as we have three infix positions, but some interesting examples exist (I count <arm> or <ìsy> as single infix):
Oel pot tsp<ìm><ìy>ang - 2 infixes at first position
Oe t<äp><eyk><ìy>erk<äng>up nìnäk - 2 infixes at prefirst position (too strange for me to translate, not even sure if it is correct)

Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2011, 04:45:53 pm »
Oel pot tsp<ìm><ìy>ang - 2 infixes at first position
That was deemed as an error (at the Workshop in October) – it should not have been constructed this way since tense infixes cannot proceed each other

The case with ‹äp› and ‹eyk› are a bit different. They can come after another as ‹äpeyk›

Oe t<äp><eyk><ìy>erk<äng>up nìnäk - 2 infixes at prefirst position (too strange for me to translate, not even sure if it is correct)
That’s something like, “I am going to cause myself to die by way of drinking (and feel bad about it)”

The canon example even had the combination ‹ìyev› in it to make it longer.
So, to answer your question, in this construct it should be possible to put 4 ‘separate’ infixes in one verb.

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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2011, 03:45:59 pm »
Irayo, ma Plumps, oe lu nì'it kanu nì'ul nìmun :)
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 02:23:16 am »
Kaltxì ma frapo!  :)
Oel kameie ayngati! One tip I learned. Look at the word from the back and locate the first wovel, in front of that you put the 2nd infix, look for the second wovel from the end, you put 0-infix and 1-infix there.
For example k-am-e, then it is k<0-infix><1-infix>am<2-infix>e
For words like i-l, then it's i<0-infix><1-infix><2-infix>l
PLEASE NOTE!! There are some (very few, but anyway) words that don't act like this rule!! :( So, look in the dictionary to be sure where to put the infixes. But, it's a good beginner's rule.  Good luck! Eywa ayngahuu! Kìyevame Il Sogno Viandante
Varför minns jag alla dåliga vitsar, men glömmer alla infix i Na'vi?? ???
Why do I remember all bad jokes, but forget all the infixes in Na'vi?? :-[

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Re: Infix positions
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 09:57:42 am »
yet another [two-year] old thread revived. ::) ;D

Well, I have an even better method, that works every single time. It was on my blog. Check out the bottom of Lesson 2 of my lessons blog:

http://tirea.learnnavi.org/posts/2013-03-09-two.html

EDIT: O. I see! You've whipped up a little something so you can  do it without looking in the dictionary. ah ok. yeh, that's pretty much it. But I generally look at words like this:


verb infix positions:
t<0><1>ar<2>on (two syllable regular)
<0><1>om<2>um (two syllable starts with vowel)
srung s<0><1><2>i (si verb)
yomt<0><1><2>ìng (compound, head last)
n<0><1><2>ewomum (compound, head first)

if that makes sense. If not, I can explain further. :)
« Last Edit: June 10, 2013, 10:06:34 am by Tirea Aean »

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