-iru vs -ru

Started by Will Txankamuse, January 22, 2010, 12:41:42 AM

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Will Txankamuse

Kaltxì,

-ru is the dative suffix e.g. foru, 3rd person plural dative - 'to them'

I read in the pocket guide that when suffixing a word ending with a consonant ending then -iru is used instead of -ru.

I tried looking through the corpus for an example of this but couldn't find one.  Can someone confirm whether this is in fact correct and provide an example, or the source of the information?

edit: ok I just re-read Frommer's latest letter and it looks like there's quite a few examples of -ur for the dative suffix e.g. eylanur (friend(pl), dative) on a word ending in consonant.  So can I safely assume that the pocket guide might have a typo and meant to put -ur instead of -iru?

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The guide was based on an assumption (-ri after a consonant is -ìri, so therefore -ru after a consonant becomes -ìru?) which we have just learned is wrong.  The dative has more in common with the accusative than the topic...  Like the accusative's -it, -t and -ti, it can be -ur, -r and -ru.
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Well, so it is... I really gotta go update that case allomorphs thread...