-o suffix on words ending with o

Started by Muzer, May 30, 2010, 12:34:29 PM

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Muzer

I want to add an -o suffix to fya'o to make it "some way/some manner/some path". How would I go about doing this? The standard "stick a y in the middle of it" method?
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my limited understanding implies contraction, and a stress change in pronunciation, much like "tute" meaning person and "tute" meaning female person.
I don't know this for sure however, this is just my best guess :)
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Muzer

Ooh, I never thought of that! It's normally fya'o, so perhaps it's just fya'o?

However, this is a bit of a problem, as I'm intending this for written Na'vi, and I don't know if it's possible to use underlining... maybe I could put an acute accent on the o (fya'ó)? I seem to remember that was used in at least one document to show unusual accents (tute vs tuté for example)
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Quote from: C'tri Atan'itan on May 30, 2010, 12:59:43 PM
my limited understanding implies contraction, and a stress change in pronunciation, much like "tute" meaning person and "tute" meaning female person.

As far as we know so far, only the gender suffixes move word accents like that — and even then not always.  Frommer hasn't said anything to suggest that the indefinite -o does ever.  This sounds like a question for the "Combining our Efforts" thread.

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Quote from: Muzer on May 30, 2010, 12:34:29 PM
I want to add an -o suffix to fya'o to make it "some way/some manner/some path". How would I go about doing this? The standard "stick a y in the middle of it" method?

I think that the y is an exception with <ei>i rather than the norm.

Also, my understanding is that y is chosen because it is the nearest approximant, with o I think you'd be more likely to use w if an approximant were to be used at all.

That said, I'm not sure it would, unlike <ei>i, I think o-o will occur rarely and so won't form a special construction, I imagine that it would be more likely to just disappear a la a-atan.
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kewnya txamew'itan

The only approximants in na'vi are y and w.

If we were going with the nearest approximant we'd get:

i->y
ì->y
e->y
ä-y
a->y/w (as it happens, neither)
o->w
u->w

so it would make more sense for o to go with w than y.
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