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Where case ending goes?
« on: June 18, 2011, 03:46:26 pm »
I'd like to say quite simple sentence: Li'ona is clan of pa'li riders. Am I correct with:
Li'ona lu olo' pa'li aymaktoä ? I'm not sure where genitive goes and if plural is needed for pa'li (I think it is as all clan member can't ride the only pa'li :))
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Re: Where case ending goes?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2011, 05:41:37 pm »
I'd like to say quite simple sentence: Li'ona is clan of pa'li riders. Am I correct with:
Li'ona lu olo' pa'li aymaktoä ? I'm not sure where genitive goes and if plural is needed for pa'li.

You know, I'm not sure if it is best to make pa'li plural or not, either.

  Li'ona lu olo' pa'liyä aymaktoyuä.

I know there is "Toruk Makto," but that's a title.  So, for "rider" we need maktoyu.  The genitive of pa'li is just pa'liyä.  In theory, there could be a little confusion about that pile of genitives (especially N N-gen followed by N-gen N), but the meaning of the words olo', pa'li and maktoyu makes things clear.
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Re: Where case ending goes?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2011, 10:43:12 pm »
pa'liyä

Update ta Frommer: the genitive ending on words ending in i is now just .

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Re: Where case ending goes?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2011, 11:02:27 pm »
pa'liyä

Update ta Frommer: the genitive ending on words ending in i is now just .



No. Pawl changed this rule:

Quote from: Frommer
Bottom line: the genitive for bases ending in -i is -yä. Apologies for going back and forth on this.

From here: http://forum.learnnavi.org/language-updates/genitive-case-refinement-declension-of-tsaw/msg150927/#msg150927

Also we have an example from the movie: Na'viyä hapxì.
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Re: Where case ending goes?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2011, 11:10:33 pm »
Right, tswola' :P

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