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Why does lenition sometimes seem arbitrary?

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Tìtstewan:

--- Quote from: Wllìm on October 27, 2014, 08:59:17 am ---I agree with Plumps. Probably when viewed historically
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I've also mentioned (Reply #4) that there could be a historical reason. Like natural languages, I am somwhow sure that also in Na'vi hapened sound shifting and vowel changes which is also a kind of lenition even like happened in old english, old german ect.


--- Quote from: Wllìm on October 27, 2014, 08:59:17 am ---
--- Quote from: Plumps on October 27, 2014, 07:06:20 am ---Another one is tewti “limits” (patiens) ;)
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This is so evil :o ;D
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As evil as kilvan (k<ilv>an - aimed OR kilvan - river) ;D :P
OR
mì fayhelku - in which houses [mì + pe + ay = mì fay] danger of confusing it with mì fayhelku - in these houses [fì + ay = fay] ;D

Wllìm:

--- Quote from: Tìtstewan on October 27, 2014, 09:36:34 am ---I've also mentioned (Reply #4) that there could be a historical reason. [...]

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Oh, okay, fixed ;D

Tìtstewan:
Ngari txe'lan mawey livu! :D

Well (to be ontopic xD), this is quite the same weird thing like the question why some verbs in english have irregular forms: play - played but write - written - wrote (same also for german and maybe other EU languages)

EDIT: Now, imagine, how one could explain that english thing to a Na'vi... hrh

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä:

--- Quote from: Tìtstewan on October 27, 2014, 02:11:50 pm ---Ngari txe'lan mawey livu! :D

Well (to be ontopic xD), this is quite the same weird thing like the question why some verbs in english have irregular forms: play - played but write - written - wrote (same also for german and maybe other EU languages)

EDIT: Now, imagine, how one could explain that english thing to a Na'vi... hrh

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Dr. Grace probably lost much hair trying to do this....

This discussion also shows how important context is. And although the lenition rules are fairly straightforward. it can still easily catch you off guard, especially if an interesting verb infix is somehow involved. (This is also why I teach lenition fairly early on to new learners.)

Vawmataw:

--- Quote from: Vawmataw on October 26, 2014, 12:39:38 pm ---
--- Quote ---One way to think about it, is: it's a language.
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I agree with you.

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I still agree with you.

*bows down in front of the grave of Zamenhof*

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