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Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« on: October 07, 2012, 02:16:18 am »
Hey folks,

This idea is NOT my idea, I heard it in teamspeak and figured I'd write it up. It's the ideas of
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I was in Teamspeak last night and heard people talking about learning Na'vi and how most languages french, german, klingon, etc... have a standardised learning be it in england GCSE or whatever or in klingon the level 1,2,3,etc.. (whatever it is)... I'm not sure if the people involved in the conversation were serious about this and I'm not advanced enough to really consider myself at the level of teacher but I certainly do think it's a good idea and to stop this becoming just a good idea which never comes to play I figured I'd draw up a basic outline of a basic Na'vi syllabus level 1.

Why you may ask? Well I figure this has many many advantages:

- It creates smaller manageable goals:

Currently we have the entirety of the grammar in NiaN and a lot of the stuff in horen guide not to mention the around 1500 ish words? (not sure exactly on the figure but i'm sure it's roughly that). These don't seem achievable goals to get this vocab memorised and to learn all the grammar so it's second nature. With smaller standardised subsets it gives them 30 - 40 words to learn and feel like they can do that and a subset of the grammar

- It allows people to talk on a standard level:

Currently we have it so that each teacher does it's own thing and like I learnt on my own pretty much I picked my own subset of words I thought were good to learn and things and it meant having a basic conversation was hard because everyone picks different words to learn or people choose to leave lenition until after compound infixes or compound infixes before and this mismatch meant my head was burried inside NiaN and looking up words in a dictionary. With a standard you can talk to someone else working at that standard and know that they're likely to know roughly the same words you do and you can actually start using the language and having a conversation at an early stage.

- It allows us to create learning material which can be used everywhere:

A lot of learning material can be reused though word lists, recordings, videos and such all are working to different peoples ideas of goals. I think with the limited number of people who teach and such it's a slow process to produce correct learning material for people having a standard allows us to produce material which is aimed at the same level with the same words and grammar and stop duplicated effort.

And why the test?

It says to learners you probably shouldn't move on because you don't seem to have a grasp, a lot of learners are also afraid of moving on... or don't know how good they really are... saying you got 80% on level one, you are ready to continue to level 2 will allow learners to feel a bit more confident about moving on as well as saying hey look, you've got to level 3, maybe you're ready to teach level 1 or whatever so also giving people the confidence to teach as we all have lives work, university, family, friends, things which take our time so we increase the number of people who can teach and/or cover your lesson if you're ill or need to do something when you usually teach.

Sorry I had to explain why I thought tests and standards where a good idea and now I have I can move on to what I had in minddd... Firstly no english or german or whatever the language... translation is inherently difficult... you should learn to associate the words with actions rather or things rather than words... Create recordings, pictures with words, youtube vidoes but try and loose this tie to "translate x" as even now when I can write na'vi blog posts I find it hard to translate, not because I don't know what I said or I don't know english just because the skill of translating is inherently difficult. Lets not burden beginners with it.

I figured you need to know basic grammar so:

Endings
-ìl or -l
-it, -ti, or -t
-ur, ru or -r

Infixes - I figured we only need past, present and future for level 1 (it's only very basic)
ay
er
am

(introduce ìy, ìm, ol level 2) - also i was tempted to include <iv> but i remember the trouble it gave me so I figure, include it level 2. Compound can be level 3 maybe?

Possessions
Include -ä / -yä

Not much else to say about this really, it's just useful being able to say my <x> plus it stops people using 'ma' which sounds a bit like slangy form of the english 'my'.

Plurals
I'm not sure about this but maybe just ay for now, pxe and me can come later? The reason I suggest this is because coming from an english background it can be a pain to do on the fly not to mention the pxe edjective is a pain to do, minimise the amount of difficult sounds to pronounce can help in a language like na'vi.

what
asking questions using what is useful so sure throw pe+ in here too.

Lenition
I was wondering about this but I can't really see an easy way to get around this... It's not too bad to get in your head after you've heard it explained and seen it done, plus if we're introducing plurals this early on lenition is a must.

Free word order
Okay this is a very difficult concept for new folk and due to people having their own conventions and such I think it's very important they understand what we mean by this and understand SOV/SVO/VOS/VSO/etc.. you get the idea so being able to take x sentence and re-arrange it is a good proof they can do it and also understanding that 'oel fìtengit tok' and 'tok fitengit oel' is exactly the same is important.

I don't think it's something they should be taught or know about at level one of the exceptions to free word order.

Basic words
I honestly wasn't sure so I just put some words to make basic sentences to talk to other people but here goes in no particular order:

- oe
- nga
- tsmuke
- tsmukan
- 'eylan
- nume
- plltxe
- syaw
- hahaw
- hum
- kä
- 'u
- set
- yom
- fpom
- näk
- yawne (maybe)
- ma
- naer (something to use with näk)
- syuve (same as above with yom)
- taron (it's used too much in the LN community to not include at an early stage)
- eywa (of course)
- fpìl
- futa (don't explain tsnì yet, level 2 maybe?)
- srane
- kehe
- irayo
- srung si
- ngaytoxa
- tse'a
- lì'fya
- lu
- tstxo

Maybe some more, I tried to pick most words without edjectives simply because their a pain (some i couldn't avoid e.g. kaltxì, ngaytxoa as they're important basic words). I honestly don't have too much of a preference just words which are useful and can form basic conversations would be good here.. Not too many though this is meant to be very basic.

The test
This could be something along the lines of a basic conversation where the tester (ideally someone other than the teacher to remove bias as much as possible). After the conversation a few other questions, the basic conversation could be something like:


Kaltxì ma tsmuke/tsmukan

ngaru fko syaw pestxo?

(they answer e.g. oeru fko syaw Tsyesìka)

srake ngal naerit namäk?

(they answer kehe or srane - hope they understood?)

Oel fpìl futa ngeyä tstxo lor lu

(they're learning and in a test, they need a compliement no? if they say irayo they probably understand :P)

Ngal lì'fyati leNa'vi plltxe srak?

(hopefully they're going to say srane ;)) - yes i realise this question would normally have tsun in but modals aren't being taught yet :P

Maybe some words like naer to pluralise and pluralised forms to give the singular (5 or so of them) e.g.

smuke -> tsmuke
naer -> aynaer
etc..

you get the idea so you can go both ways..

Finally identifying the subject, the object or the verb... give a sentence 'Oel naerit näk' and asked what the subject for example is... expect Oel as the responce..

'yerom oel syuveti' for example and be asked what the verb is... expect 'yerom' maybe ask what the root is expect 'yom' etc...

This test you'll notice isn't testing your translation skills it's not asking you given the na'vi what is the english or visa versa it's using it in conversation and asking you to reply in na'vi to questions about na'vi showing understanding of the na'vi... maybe some writing element of some description? not sure what ... along similar lines though I'd have thought..

What do you guys thing it's only a suggestion but I figure it could help and obviously level 2,3,etc... can come too


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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2012, 12:07:51 pm »
I support all of this as I believe the Ideas here are all right on point and go very well hand in hand with my original vision of the Project.

I also propose a name change, as it was a very common problem with Na'vi newcomers that "Project NgayNume" was difficult to pronounce correctly. That's another matter that is probably cause for a NEW thread, but I thought I'd just bring it up for some reason.

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2012, 01:28:46 pm »
Kezemplltxe, this is good idea and step in correct direction. As it was discussed in another thread, some learning system is needed and creating of small units of learning as you describe it would be useful. It help people to learn better and simpler. Also tests would be useful - everyone can see his own progress and assure he learns correctly.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2012, 02:44:07 pm »
I'm super behind this as well - this will make my job as a teacher a lot easier and it'll help everyone I've ever tried to teach understand how well they are doing and where they stand.

This is absolutely needed.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2012, 02:47:12 pm »
I'd like to throw my hat in the ring as well; this is something I've really been wishing for.  I might not be able to provide support as far as writing instructional material, but I can offer server space, webapp/iOS app coding, as well as volunteering myself as a guinea pig for any testing material.

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2012, 02:53:31 pm »
Oh! That might come in handy.

O just think... a Project NgayNume(if it is still called that) App! :D I think a Web app would be nice because you develop one app, it works on all platforms in the browser. You can just add the shortcut to your home screen. Separate desktop version and mobile version would be cool.

Seze has some experience using interesting Web App frameworks. Maybe talk to him if we decide that using an app is the way to go (and I think it might just be..)

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2012, 03:17:02 pm »
Oh yes, definatly something i would look at with serious interest. especially as I still struggle to get things to retain. so test subject I am hrh
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2012, 02:23:59 am »
I think the first thing to do to be honest is do what any other 'course' has and begin writing teaching spec's what they should know and to what degree they should know it. I gave a rough example of the sort of idea. How hard each level is? These kinds of things are what will make this something brilliant or something which we'll remember as a series of bad decisions a year from now.

Once you have a spec you can then develop awesome apps, websites, learning resources and finally the tests. Teachers can read the spec and get familiar. It's important teachers teach to the spec like they do in schools (at least in england they teach to a spec to a known unified qualification be it GCSE, As-level, A2-level, etc..).

You may want to outline a word list. One of the things I realised when I came up with mine is do i want to create this course to be useful regarding speaking about what you have, are or will be doing. What could be useful for learnings to chat to each other with or do you want words which are common on pandora more purist na'vi words. I can't remember the last time I flew on my ikran :P or hunted a nantang (not saying students shouldn't learn these words but is this something you want to introduce at such a low level?)

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2012, 11:22:26 am »
And here we are again at the idealist vs. realist approach :P

I find the ideas fascinating, although I have to admit after sleeping two nights over the discussion on TS I am still somewhat sceptic concerning this certificate approach. Maybe I’m differently wired that way but do people really need a level to put themselves in? If so, we have to go all the way … because that means to ask the question, level in what? Reading, writing, comprehension, speaking…? At the way I see people at the moment not taking the plunge at actually speaking the language (and yes that entails making mistakes, and making them for practice’s sake) it will come down to the first 3 again.

The basic vocabulary idea is not a bad one actually. It would also help people to create and write material in a certain level with explanations of yet unknown vocabulary to that specific level.

And yet again, I have to say ‘but;) knowing a certain amount of words doesn’t give you a grasp of the language. Sure you can learn every word in the dictionary by heart and yet you wouldn’t be able to form a simple sentence without grammatical rules. Now, if we want to make people use the language, I think a good way is to introduce certain set phrases (e.g. to start off a conversation) or templates (e.g. to speak about yourself, what you (dis)like, etc.) with which one can at least try to embark on a simple conversation and get the most results out of little set phrases… Personally my favorites with these still are:

(ke) spaw oel futa …
(ke) fpìl oel futa …
law oer (ke) lu fwa …
(ke) lu oeru …
(ke) sunu oer …
+ thing
(ke) sunu oer fwa … + activity

Only with these few sentence starters one can say a lot! And even if one continues with English after that that’s fine. At least it helps others to recognise these sentences very quickly and helps them to understand it from different speakers very quickly.

Just my 2¢

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2012, 12:01:29 pm »
 As long as it is used to standardize lesson plans, and teaching credentials, it is a good thing. It it eventually morphs into a ranking system of those of us who love the message of the movie, but are either not gifted with being able to learn a language, or someone who was very gifted at it, but have since become brain damaged, it will only serve to be a hurtful thing, and cause some to give up, and go away. We need to be very careful, and not create "classes" in our fledgeling society. Within thirty seconds during a meetup, the level of Na'vi that different people speak will become apparent.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2012, 12:07:43 pm »
A reminder than I DO very much want this to be FUN and loose and casual. I don't want something that reminds people of their highschool Spanish class than they hated o  so much.

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2012, 12:28:19 pm »
Another reminder that all of this is still COMPLETELY up in the air and open to discussion. Nothing here has been officially declared as decided. The more relevant ideas and honest opinions expressed here, the better.

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2012, 01:14:43 pm »
A reminder than I DO very much want this to be FUN and loose and casual. I don't want something that reminds people of their highschool Spanish class than they hated o  so much.
This. Learning must be amusing. If not, people loose their interest quickly.
Again I must remember PNg a Le'eylan's teaching. There was a lot of fun, where were reading and correcting our homeworks. But learning by amusing way doesn't mean, that no preparation or plan is needed.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2012, 02:33:15 pm »
I think that it is a VERY good idea to to set standard for different levels of teachers, and to insure that the teacher is "at" a level or two above where they are teaching. I formally taught several different Jobs, and several different skills in the Army, but only AFTER I had proven that I myself had mastered them.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2012, 03:06:08 pm »
This is a great idea, and it can serve as an incentive to get people to learn Na'vi well. I am willing to contribute ideas to a project like this, in terms of content and ways of learning.

I can give you a little light on how the certification works in Klingon. There are three levels. Level 1 requires that you know about 500 words, and about 2/3rds of the various noun suffixes, and varb prefixes and suffixes. You need to know basic grammar and syntax (which is pretty straightforward in Klingon). The test is 'fill in the blank, so you really have to know the material to get the question right. Level 2 is similar to level 1 but overs a lot of the stuff level 1 didn't cover. Level 3 is somewhat different, and from what I understand, covers more details on discourse, and things like clipped spech. None of these tests are easy, and it is going to take me most of the year to be ready to try level 1 late next summer.

For Na'vi, I think your suggestion for a 'level 1' is too low. I am not a lingustic expert or know how to learn languages, but I learned what was on your list in the first week. As I see it, a 'level 1' person would need to know:

Alphabet and pronunciation (Does there need to be a vocal part, as Na'vi is a spoken language?)
Lenition
Nouns and noun cases
Verbs and a few of the most common (tense, aspect) infixes
Free word order
Tripartate sentence structure
The <iv> infix
Modal constructions
Use of adjectives
Use of adverbs
Pronouns (the most common forms)
Prenouns and deixis
Adpositions and prepositional phrases
Basic uses of the topical
The rest of the common verb infixes
Numbers (the basic concepts)
Plurality
The use of the word <a>
Use of the most common 'f-words'
150-200 words of vocabulary

A person who knows this much would qualify as an intermediate learner.
This is a lot of material, but it might be what you would get in 'language 101' in school.

What Tsyesìka originally posted would be a good for a 'certificate of proficiency' after a 1 day class. Teaching a class like that is something a lot of people here could do, and it would go a long ways towards getting people involved in the language.

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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2012, 03:19:13 pm »
Sounds great. But I want the teaching style to be as NOT TECHNICAL (none of those huge linguist terms, what toddler knows what a tripartite sentence structure is) and as EASY and as FUN and most importantly as NATURAL as possible.

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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2012, 04:15:51 pm »
 Well you just blew me out of the water, for ever getting past week one of the certification then, my feline loving friend.
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This is a great idea, and it can serve as an incentive to get people to learn Na'vi well. I am willing to contribute ideas to a project like this, in terms of content and ways of learning.

I can give you a little light on how the certification works in Klingon. There are three levels. Level 1 requires that you know about 500 words, and about 2/3rds of the various noun suffixes, and varb prefixes and suffixes. You need to know basic grammar and syntax (which is pretty straightforward in Klingon). The test is 'fill in the blank, so you really have to know the material to get the question right. Level 2 is similar to level 1 but overs a lot of the stuff level 1 didn't cover. Level 3 is somewhat different, and from what I understand, covers more details on discourse, and things like clipped spech. None of these tests are easy, and it is going to take me most of the year to be ready to try level 1 late next summer.

For Na'vi, I think your suggestion for a 'level 1' is too low. I am not a lingustic expert or know how to learn languages, but I learned what was on your list in the first week. As I see it, a 'level 1' person would need to know:

Alphabet and pronunciation (Does there need to be a vocal part, as Na'vi is a spoken language?)
Lenition
Nouns and noun cases
Verbs and a few of the most common (tense, aspect) infixes
Free word order
Tripartate sentence structure
The <iv> infix
Modal constructions
Use of adjectives
Use of adverbs
Pronouns (the most common forms)
Prenouns and deixis
Adpositions and prepositional phrases
Basic uses of the topical
The rest of the common verb infixes
Numbers (the basic concepts)
Plurality
The use of the word <a>
Use of the most common 'f-words'
150-200 words of vocabulary

A person who knows this much would qualify as an intermediate learner.
This is a lot of material, but it might be what you would get in 'language 101' in school.

What Tsyesìka originally posted would be a good for a 'certificate of proficiency' after a 1 day class. Teaching a class like that is something a lot of people here could do, and it would go a long ways towards getting people involved in the language.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2012, 04:25:56 pm »
 That would work on just about anyone ma tsmukan if it were total immersion. I learned to speak Samoan while I lived in Samoa AFTER the Comas, and I spoke it well. Problem IS that I got that good after I stopped speaking most English for a year, and in the beginning, there was a LOT of pointing, and body language, just like how a toddler learns. I don't know how such a course of learning would be possible for most people. Naomi could learn that way from Txona, and if Ateyo and I stopped speaking english in the house, it would probably help me as well, but it would be interesting to see if several times a year, intensive seminars could be held for beginners at several locations for a weekend where nothing but Na'vi was spoken. Now THAT would be a KICK!!
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Sounds great. But I want the teaching style to be as NOT TECHNICAL (none of those huge linguist terms, what toddler knows what a tripartite sentence structure is) and as EASY and as FUN and most importantly as NATURAL as possible.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2012, 06:44:43 pm »
Sounds great. But I want the teaching style to be as NOT TECHNICAL (none of those huge linguist terms, what toddler knows what a tripartite sentence structure is) and as EASY and as FUN and most importantly as NATURAL as possible.

Yes.  Without using google, I don't know what "prenouns and deixis" means.  But I agree with 'Eylan Ayfalulukanä that an intermediate learner would probably be able to use most of the things on his list, whether they knew the technical terms or not.  Short of total immersion, I think one of the best ways to learn vocabulary and grammar painlessly is through reading comprehension.  Does everyone remember the annoying little stories that use this week's new words from their foreign language class?  I believe that those are a good idea, and can be made funny or otherwise engaging instead of dull. :)  This sounds a lot like what Le'eylan was doing so successfully.
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Re: Ideas for a standardised Na'vi (certification?)
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2012, 08:11:18 pm »
 Something like that would work well it it was done like the (very repetitive) Dick and Jane, Fun with Dick and Jane, and, More fun with Dick and Jane books that American kids were given for reading primers in early grade School. The could be  Tsu 'Tay si Ney Tiri,  'ipu hu Tsu 'Tay si Ney Tiri, and Ni'ul 'ipu hu Tsu 'Tay si Ney Tiri.  The books could be when they were children of Dick and Jane's age (perhaps going to Grace's School, so we could bring her into the stories as well). So what do you guys think??
 Niri Te
Tokx alu tawtute, Tirea Le Na'vi

 

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