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« on: April 27, 2010, 05:18:04 pm »
okay, my TAs, please put the suggestions of your Timezone groups here. Or really, ANY suggestion regarding the project at all should go in this thread. Open for all suggestions. thanks.

I NEED IDEAS FOR WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES WE WANT TO DO!! Please post here!

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2010, 09:41:12 am »
OK,

I've been talking to my friend who will, I hope, be along for it (though not on the 21st as he'll still be in France or on the way back then).

We’ve both been using a lot of the site's resources since we found out about it but I'm the only one who signed up (on forum) ... the ones I mostly use are Tree Of Voices, JMemorize (creating a new word list from site stuff for that) and Taronyu's Navi-English dictionary. Alos been using the Activity Book for practice and the Nutshell one to try and get a handle on the grammar.

We both reckon it would be a good idea to have games, electronic ones, lots of them because they'd be fun (especially if they make good use of pictures and sounds) ... a kind of like a multimedia version of the Activity Book I guess.

Although I'm not really TA material (not good enough at Na'vi) I am only too willing to help and make some stuff if anyone can think of a way I can do so ... I'm an average hobbyist programmer using Python (but not all that practised at using it graphically).

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2010, 10:00:24 am »
Fantastic idea! I also was thinking of games. and since a load of people on this forum can program simple games, we can probably have many sound/picture based games. I just hope it doesnt take too long to make them, as we want more than one game for this project. keep it simple, so it is simple to use and learn from. :D I do love tree of voices, but the problem is, many people have told me that it will not work for them. I would tell them to read JayWalker's thread on that. I'm sure several people had the same issue several times and the solution was posted there. this project's initial plans were to include the TOV software as a method of homework and study. SO yeah I like your idea.

Any other good ideas? good stuff right here.

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 02:17:28 am »
Not all games require programming. Lets research some social/party games that can be played by groups of people and modify them to relate to Na'vi. There's plenty of learning games I remember playing in pre-school. Games are the best way to learn anything, ever.  :D

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 05:38:51 am »
Agreed. Games, simple melody songs, things we all can do will teach us very effectively. we remember the alphabet because they have been made into the lyrics of a song. For some of us (not me particularly, but others) have learned the quadratic formula because it is lyrics of a song. to make songs should be relatively easy as we have a rhyming dictionary.(which Im not sure how current it is). And Im sure that we can have games that only need people to be able to speak so that we can play over teamspeak. keep up the suggestions. I really need these kinds of ideas, guys!

What is it that you would want to do for a weeklong homework assignment? What is it that you might want to do as a teamspeak classwork assignment? what kinds of participation are you interested in? keep in mind the project's three core and key ideas for learning: Association, Correction, Immersion. The project would surely fail if no one posts suggestions here, so thanks for your ideas!

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2010, 08:29:45 am »
This is the only category I thought these would fit in:









Hope you like 'em!

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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2010, 08:44:43 am »
Tewti! Those are actually very nice! Let's all use the one that each of us is...and put it in our sig as an image and put url around it to link to the pnn board like this:

EDIT: if you choose to use a userbar that is posted on this topic, PLEASE do this to your signature so that the userbar becomes a link to inside the Project NgayNume board

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[ url = http://forum.learnnavi.org/project-ngaynume/ ][ img ] link to image here[ /img ][ /
url ]

Minus all spaces...I think tht shuld work... Ill try it later.

EDIT: I just tried this code i just posted here, and it works.

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2010, 10:59:46 am »
Some banners I made....with powerpoint....cuz I don't have photoshop or anything like that xDDD







Yeahh that last one is a little awkward....

EDIT: Here is a better KS banner:


I hope you guys like these!  ;D
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2010, 11:03:07 am »
What if we took our sessions and put them up on_line so people could reveiw them over the following weeks?

sounds like that post should have gone into the suggestions board. it is a good idea. Teamspeak 3 has a recording function. I was going to have TA record the session anyway. and with that, they have to mention any crucial text chat messages which are relevant. I will check these out over the week and PM people about stuff.

so yeah guys, definately use the topics for suggestions if you have a cool idea that can help the project and its participants! :D

Here's a good one, when you start a session the TA read the time out loud. Then, you just post the entire chat log with the recording. That way, you can know exactly when someone posted something in relation to the audio.

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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2010, 11:22:37 am »
thank you Ngawng for the userbars  and Ayker for posting that here.

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2010, 01:07:38 pm »
OKAY guys, I just received more Userbars from my new friend Schlipak!! How nice of him!









again, to add a userbar from this thread, follow the instructions from userbars.doc (attached to this post and another of my posts from before.)
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2010, 06:49:43 pm »
One point of contention which has already been mentioned and furthermore has been answered, but will get mentioned at some point:

It's UTC instead of GMT now. Funnily enough they are different things, but that's beside the point.

Another interesting note: Apparently UTC replaced GMT approximately 38 years ago.


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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2010, 07:10:24 pm »
you know what Agent? NO ONE CARES!

well I just figured that the whole world was familiar with GMT...I havent even heard of utc until i spoke with you on the matter...if you want to name your timezone with UTC, go ahead. a timezone is a timezone. and in all reality, timezone groups arent even strict. they were just used to start up groups anyone can join in at any other zone's time if it is convenient. eventually we wont even have groups by zone, we will have groups by which time people get online that day...but yeah.

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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 12:41:42 am »
Hello i'm Nawm Neytyry.Can I to join Ngay Nume project? My Timezone Gms +1 A free only on weekends

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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 10:35:13 am »
Agreed. Games, simple melody songs, things we all can do will teach us very effectively. we remember the alphabet because they have been made into the lyrics of a song. For some of us (not me particularly, but others) have learned the quadratic formula because it is lyrics of a song. to make songs should be relatively easy as we have a rhyming dictionary.(which Im not sure how current it is). And Im sure that we can have games that only need people to be able to speak so that we can play over teamspeak. keep up the suggestions. I really need these kinds of ideas, guys!

Songs can definitely be a good tool for teaching a language, especially if they are tied to some simple melody that everyone remembers. We had a few somewhat silly songs for learning Spanish back in high school, and although none of them could be directly translated as full sentences (they were just lists of related words), they were easy to remember because of their catchiness.

As far as games that can be done over Teamspeak, the simplest word association game you can possibly think of is also one of the most useful ones:

First person chooses a noun. (swizaw, for example)
Next person describes that noun in a simple sentence (Swizaw lu pxi.) and then chooses a new noun. (prrnen)
Repeat until bored. (Prrnen 'ewan lu.) (payfya)
(Payfya ean lu.) (tsamsiyu)
(Tsamsiyu lu tstew.) (next word)

While this game seems extremely rudimentary to some people, it is rather helpful to beginners, as it not only teaches a variety of basic nouns and adjectives, it also must necessarily associate them with each other. For example, I didn't actually remember what tstew meant at first, but I remembered seeing it used to describe taronyu and tsamsiyu, and that clued me in to what it meant.

In addition, this sort of game, after a short period of time, can be played exclusively in Na'vi; it doesn't need any sort of English or other languages to help it out, which I know to be one of the goals of this project. Beginners would be able to use the dictionary at first to choose an appropriate word, and will definitely be surprised by how short a time it is before they don't need to look up the majority of words.

What is it that you would want to do for a weeklong homework assignment? What is it that you might want to do as a teamspeak classwork assignment? what kinds of participation are you interested in? keep in mind the project's three core and key ideas for learning: Association, Correction, Immersion. The project would surely fail if no one posts suggestions here, so thanks for your ideas!

--TA

I think that Kaltxì Palulukan's Activity Book has been easily the most helpful project for helping me personally, so I am naturally inclined to suggest things like it, but if the goal is to teach Na'vi without the use of another language, it therefore becomes necessary to develop activities and worksheets that are entirely in Na'vi. This might seem daunting at first, especially to beginners, but I would imagine that the instructions for any given language-related worksheet are going to be rather similar and repetitive. (Ngal eyawra lì'ut pamrel sivi mì "blank".)

I don't know how keen people would be on a scholastic approach such as this, mostly because I know most people don't want to think of learning Na'vi as homework, but, then again, there are many people who thrive on this sort of structured workload.

Tirea, do you think that things like that "The Natural World" sheet I came up with a couple weeks back would be a good match for this? Or do you think that it is too English-reliant? (I'm just curious as to exactly how you want to approach this whole project.)

Let me know what you think,

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Re: Put Suggestions in HERE.
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 10:45:46 am »
oh wow kayr...very nice stuff goin on here! I like the noun adj next game! also. worksheets are very nice. tho KP's activity book has errors in it, i think something like that book is very nice. I dont at all want this to feel like I am the teacher and you are the student and I am forcing you to do the work I give you. I want it to be that we are all students , I run the project according to the will of the most students, and we all do work that we want to do in such a way that it isnt forced but we are doing it to learn and apply. be it games, songs, worksheets, spoken activities...as for your natural world thing...I like it. I think that the Na'vi only version is more inclined for the project, however, not all of us are able to understand Na'vi so we have to take it a step at a time. we need some good association before we do some immersion. and then some more association and immersion. and some correction in there too. that is the nature and the life of the project.

if you like the banners, pick up one of the Karyuä srungsiyu ones and put it in your sig! it should be something like how I posted tho. I want the image to be a link to the main Project Ngaynume board. see my post about applying a pnn userbar. i made a rtf with sample sig codes.

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 04:03:49 pm »
So Slìmz and I were talking about ways to use image association in real time in the classroom for Project NgayNume and we decided that Tree of Voices will be used, BUT not in the classroom. that will be more of a study/homework method.  Lessons are extremely easy to make and so some TAs and I will make a lesson or two each week before the login day. So one of the sites that Slimz was talking about that I really liked the idea of was this one: http://www.powershow.com/?u=pp&t=b

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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2010, 04:19:09 pm »
I like that!  It looks really nice and I think it'll help

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« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 07:24:30 am »
i agree with everyone else incorperate games because if its fun they probally will have more of a chanve of remebering the word/words/other stuff

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 10:20:55 pm »
from the TA conference earlier today came prezi.com. very nice. I LOVE the idea. Please let me know if you are interested in creating such a presentation. I would love to collaborate and get these done before next friday. :D

what can you do with prezi.com?

http://prezi.com/showcase/

http://prezi.com/learn/
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