Avatar fan film- International project

Started by Ikranä mokri, May 25, 2010, 03:34:38 AM

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Ikranä mokri

OK, Some of you may be thinking "What is this Idiot doing posting on the fan video section... without a video!!"

well I shall answer you, earlier today (whilst playing dragon age if you want to know) i had a bit of a brainwave, I know that out on youtube there are many fan made movies for example one of my personal favourites.

The Hunt For Gollum - Full Movie
and
Born of Hope - Full Movie

I was then thinking what if, what if I could get together a group of people (after exams of course) together and we script write, direct, produce and act in our very own Avatar fan-film, a mix of human and Na'Vi roles could be done (if I can find a nice animator on here who wants to join me).

I know for one thing that it is possible as the girl who directed Born of Hope, spent her own money on the film, we could even do something based on earth as a prequel. But im jumping the gun here, Who knows if we have enough interest and this starts to flourish maybe payoang would be kind enough to give us our own board. But like I said im jumping the gun





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Ftiafpi

WOW! Those are really well done! I'm normally not a fan of most things fan-made but, wow, those match the feel and style of the LotR movies almost perfectly. I will have to watch those some time.

Anyway, as for a Avatar fan movie, I think it would be hard, since it wouldn't be that interesting unless the Na'vi/Pandora were involved so, unless you have a motion capture sound stage in your basement, I don't know how feasible this would be. If we get a bunch of 3D animators they could probably do some Na'vi for group shots and far away shots and for close ups you can do either makeup or 3D (or a mix) to get the faces right but it would be a challenge for sure.

That said, if someone could pull off a fan film with a good story and the quality to match the bits I saw in the fan films you posted they would have the best fan film in the world and I know I wouldn't complain. (heh, we might even be able to get Frommer to check the Na'vi for us :P)

`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

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There is nothing cast in stone that says something like this needs to be heavy with CGI and shot on a soundstage. Live actors in a location setting, combined with top-notch writing, acting and cinematography will more than make up for a lack of high-tech special effects. 3D is not necessary, either, as 3D IMHO does little to enhance an otherwise good production.

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Ftiafpi

Right but to get Pandora stuff in there you would need some CGI for the creatures, but that wouldn't be too hard. It's really the Na'vi I'd be worried about. It could all be done with makeup and camera tricks but it would be hard and wouldn't look that good (no expressive tail, ears, etc).

Ikranä mokri

who says it has to be set On Pandora !! just because the film was set there doesn't mean we would have to set a fan film there, yes i will let you have the fact that Avatar is about Pandora etc, but you could set it on earth as a prequel or maybe set during the time of the film, it doesn't have to have named -characters from the film (that would be plajorising and we could be sued)

It's a film based upon the universe of James Camerons' Avatar, we don't have to do the exactly the same things as him, there is a much opportunity making a film based on earth- and from what we can tell its become a pretty bad place to live- as there is on the beautiful world of pandora (I also have been thinking about a few opening sequences but nothing major yet





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Ftiafpi

Well, as I said, it wouldn't be that interesting (to me). I mean, we know what Earth is like. Even a heavily polluted, future Earth isn't that obscure. It's Pandora and the Na'vi that are the real intrigue if you ask me.

That said though, I imagine there's a way you could combine the two. Perhaps two Na'vi we're brought to Earth as ambassadors who then become stranded halfway through the movie when the Na'vi kick the RDA off Pandora? Or you could try just a Earth only movie but I fear it would only be boring drama with little intrigue or would have to include a really ridiculous plot.

Ikranä mokri

so far I have though up a story- which leaves room for a sequel - about a pair of thieves on earth who are working for an obscure person, there will be 1 or 2 points when it crosses slightly with the '07 script.

But anything can be made interesting, if there is enough suspense, action, drama etc people will stay interested. also setting it on earth would make CGI etc just that much easier to achieve.





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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

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There are good CGI effects that can be easily had for projects like this that would most likely have a budget in the 5 to 6 figures. With a lot of determination (read: time), they can be made to work with even smaller budgets. I was a judge for a film festival for a number of years, and I saw some mighty fine stuff (and a lot of real crap as well) being done on student film-type budgets. We might not be able to create Na`vi people that look like the Avatar film, but they would be convincingly real. Even moveable tails and ears are possible, if it is important enough.

I like the ideas of bringing Na`vi to earth, either now or in the future. There are lots of interesting cultural contrast ideas/stories that could be played out-- as well as an opportunity for creating some Na`vi terms for our technologies. The Na'vi culture is stable enough that it probably 'exists'  now pretty much as it exists at the time of the Avatar story (2154 AD).

I've also have had some crazy thoughts of somehow trying to 'cross' the Na`vi and Narnia worlds.

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Ikranä mokri

I dunno bringing the Na'Vi to earth would probably be bad,

1 they would have to have some type of rebreather and i doubt they would want to wear it

2 there a hunter gather society, the huge gap between the humans and Na'Vi culturally, I very much doubt they would want to come to our world.

3 why would they want to leave Eywa- there happy there, If they went to earth they would be away from her, and in the '07 script, Tsu'Tey would rather die, than live without his que and his connection with Eywa.

Im sure there are more reasons why they wouldn't come but these are the only ones I can think of.





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Ftiafpi

Very true, I didn't think it would work. Hence why I figured the only really viable option for a good fan film would be something involving Pandora.

Ikranä mokri

I would love to be able to do a fan film that was on pandora, but i just dont think its a viable option. the cost to me and whoever else chipped in would be way to much.

but hey this is what this thread is for

(now all I need is a few more people to come here and were good)





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`Eylan Ayfalulukanä

Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn on May 26, 2010, 03:43:05 PM
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Don't limit yourself to just being on Pandora or on Earth. be both places, or more. Also, don't limit yourself to the Omatakaya people. Maybe the plains Na`vi, or the temperate forest Na`vi or the cold weather Na`vi or the waterfront Na`vi could be involved. (I've even envisioned a high-tech Na`vi clan on the other side of Pandora that is building (among other things)a starship.) Your travelers could easily exchanage the inconvenience of a breathing mask for the chance to travel and learn.

In the end, I think the farther you stay from the Avatar storyline (while still staying true to the Na`vi and other races, the fewer problems you will have.

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Ikranä mokri

*looks oddly at `Eylan Ayfalulukanä* high tech Na'Vi, Im sure that goes against what they are for as well as sorta killing the Na'Vis' look in my eyes

although i like the split idea, and the plains ect





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swiräk

uhm, what about the beginning? how the humans found the planet, and how they colonized it?

Ikranä mokri

that could work pharno- still would require a lot of CGI- but we can cross that bridge when we get to it





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Ftiafpi

Well, not too much, the space scenes would be easy to do in CGI and you wouldn't have to do a big, complex Hells Gate (since it wouldn't exist) so a lot of natural forest shots would work with a bit of CGI for the ship landing. You'd have tons of forest shots with some composted CGI creatures that shouldn't be too difficult. I think the only tricky things would be the bit of Na'vi you would have and any closeups of funky creatures or plants.

Ikranä mokri

mainly there is the problem of plagorism, if we use pandora and the Na'Vi, james cameron is totally within his legasl rights (im not saying that he would) to sue us for copyright infringements- the loophole is if we based it within the Avatar Universe but with a different story,

but i do like the idea people are coming up with, it interesting to think about really basic plots for them XD





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Kerame Pxel Nume

About a week after I saw Avatar I had the idea "Wow, I'd like to make a fan movie placed on Pandora". Two weeks later I ended up with a script worth of about one hour. I also had some Ideas how the project could be distributed over the world. I've put the expose into the attachment (it's in Unix format, so opening it in Windows Notepad renders it unreadable (messed up line breaks), use WordPad instead).

One thing will be CGI. My idea for that is, that the whole CGI stuff could be distributed over a grid of learnnavi.org member's (and those of other Avatar fan forum's) computers.

I also have a performance capture like system, which you can build from easily to obtain components, up my sleeve, so that would be also feasible. Motion capture is a bit more demanding, but can be done using normal camcorders if you put some effort and tricks into it.

Live action filming could be done with DSLRs like Canon EOS 700D or 5D, to get a "cinema" like look. The total bummer was, if it was done in stereoscopic 3D (totally feasible, also for amateur projects).

The biggest problem is getting locations to set up studios/motion capture stages, etc. And making all the props for live action sequences.


Ikranä mokri

Kerame Pxel Nume- after a quick scan read, i like it, has potential, lots of potential.

if you want to discuss some stuff, maybe my ideas or anythign please PM me (this goes for everyone), If we can get a big enough base maybe we can get our own board later on.





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