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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #40 on: August 02, 2014, 03:00:31 pm »
What about nguwaysiyu?
I know that "nguway si" isn't confirmed, but I saw it already used few times and it fits perfectly into language, like other -siyu words we have (tsamsiyu, srungsiyu, pamrelsiyu).
Well, if I would not out on holiday, I'd propose this too.
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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #41 on: August 02, 2014, 07:37:42 pm »
 :D  I heard from Karyu Pawl, he said he'd put this in the next Na'viteri post, but for those of you who are curious now:  :D

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So . . . nguway.

Good question. I now realize we have a noun meaning the viper wolf's cry or howl but not yet a verb meaning to howl! So let's see . . .

The idea behind nguway is that it's related to way 'song.' It's a "ngu" song. :-) Ngu is supposed to be onomatopoeic, mimicking the sound of a howl. So to carry the idea further, the nantang is singing a song when he's howling, which indicates that rol should be involved.

So I'm thinking that the verb 'howl' should be rol nguway, where nguway is acting adverbially: to sing in a nguway, or howling, way. I don't think it should be a transitive structure like *Nantangìl rol nguwayti but rather the intransitive Nantang rol nguway. Along those lines, nguway si would also be possible, and perhaps more expected, but I do like using rol here.

So then a "howler" would be a nguwayrolyu.

A further thought:

Saying rol nguway over to myself, it's pretty clear that the l of rol is unstable here and would drop over time. That would give ro nguway, which would coalesce into one word, the verb ronguway!

So howl is then:

ronguway (vin., ro.NGU.way--infixes 1,1) 'howl'

In that case, 'howler' would be

ronguwayyu (n., ro.NGU.way.yu) 'howler'

I think I like that better!
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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2014, 02:43:31 am »
Txantsan!
/language updates kop, kefyak? :D I knew that there would be a solution without that si-thing.

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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2014, 01:56:45 am »
Txantsan!
/language updates kop, kefyak? :D I knew that there would be a solution without that si-thing.

And Official Dictionary thread? I'd post that quote there but I have respect and don't want to steal your thunder for this really cool find ma Alyara. :)

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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #44 on: January 05, 2015, 01:43:16 am »
UPDATE: Kaltxì ma Prrnen will no longer be available on Adobe Workspaces, which is being discontinued entirely. :o  Therefore I will be uploading both the book, with corrections, and the audio which I just finished recording, onto Google. 8)  I will share that location with you as soon as I have completed this process. :D  I have a busy week, but I should have it up before this weekend. :)  Thank you for your patience and understanding. :-*
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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #45 on: January 05, 2015, 09:40:19 am »
Sorry for the double post, but the book is here:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B73OX3l7s9h3eGF1SnA3QnF4dFE/view?usp=sharing

The newly recorded audio version is here:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B73OX3l7s9h3cWJSeUd4dzhERkk/view?usp=sharing

You should be able to play both at once and listen as you read. :)
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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #46 on: January 05, 2015, 10:06:43 am »
UPDATE: Kaltxì ma Prrnen will no longer be available on Adobe Workspaces, which is being discontinued entirely. :o 
I also read that… Good that the file can be made available through other media.

Thanks for informing us! This beautiful work should not be forgotten :)

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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #47 on: January 06, 2015, 11:28:47 am »
How beautiful recording! Big applause for you, Alyara!
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Re: Kaltxì ma Prrnen! - Animal Learning Book
« Reply #48 on: January 06, 2015, 12:35:29 pm »
Thanks very, very much!  I wanted it to sound gentle, but still be correct.  It took a while to find that balance. ;)
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