Mipa Pamrelfya fpi Na'via lì'fya

['Oma Tirea]

Below is another translation excercise, based on a text from Frommer.  This is another variation that doesn't use any alphabetic system.

Clues: First word is slä, last word is zo.  Aysyayvi asìltsan, ma smuk

BTW, you can click on the image below for a larger version.  If that fails, you can just download the image for a larger viewing.

[Tirea Aean]

Below is another translation excercise, based on a text from Frommer.  This is another variation that doesn't use any alphabetic system.

Clues: First word is slä, last word is zo.  Aysyayvi asìltsan, ma smuk

BTW, you can click on the image below for a larger version.  If that fails, you can just download the image for a larger viewing.

how did I know that you would do somethin like this hehehe It is quite strange. and arrowy XD it has some like mathematical geometricalness to it...hmm

['Oma Tirea]

It is quite strange. and arrowy XD it has some like mathematical geometricalness to it...hmm

Probably a description that would also apply to the Canadian aboriginal syllabics.

...any guesses at the text yet?

[Prrton]

It is quite strange. and arrowy XD it has some like mathematical geometricalness to it...hmm

Probably a description that would also apply to the Canadian aboriginal syllabics.

...any guesses at the text yet?

Spoiler

Slä sa'nokìri fpìlfya lu keteng. Po plltxe san tì'efumì oeyä sutekip nìwotx, ftxey Na'vi ftxey Sawtute, lu sìltsan, lu kawng sìk.

Lam set fwa Sawtute akawng holum, pum asìltsan 'ì'awn, ulte Na'viru set lu nawma eyktan amip a larmu Tawtute. Hu Sawtute a tsam lu hasey. Sìlpey Txewì tsnì tsivun set fko pivlltxe san frawzo.

I'm not sure if I'd technically call it an abugida, though, because the consonants hang on the vowels and not the other way around. I've never seen one work that way. An 'inverse abugida'..., maybe?

It's very legible.

I agree that it is stylistically reminiscent of Canadian syllabics.

['Oma Tirea]

Slä sa'nokìri fpìlfya lu keteng. Po plltxe san tì'efumì oeyä sutekip nìwotx, ftxey Na'vi ftxey Sawtute, lu sìltsan, lu kawng sìk.

Lam set fwa Sawtute akawng holum, pum asìltsan 'ì'awn, ulte Na'viru set lu nawma eyktan amip a larmu Tawtute. Hu Sawtute a tsam lu hasey. Sìlpey Txewì tsnì tsivun set fko pivlltxe san frawzo.[/spoiler]

I'm not sure if I'd technically call it an abugida, though, because the consonants hang on the vowels and not the other way around. I've never seen one work that way. An 'inverse abugida'..., maybe?

Seykxel sì nitram ngengaru, ma Prrton

Precisely, it is an inverse abugida.  I'll explain the hefty details in the next post ye'rìn...

['Oma Tirea]

This one is an abugida alphabet, but this is not your normal abugida alphabet, in that the consonants modify the vowels, and it is a really simple system to use.
Prrton refers to it more of an "inverse abugida."
Enjoy, ma smuk

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First, the vowels and pseudovowels:

'Aw: NAVI VOWEL I
Mune: NAVI VOWEL A
Pxey: NAVI VOWEL U
Tsìng: NA'VI VOWEL E
Mrr: NA'VI VOWEL O
Pukap: NA'VI VOWEL LAX I
Kinä: NA'VI VOWEL AE
Vol: NA'VI VOWEL VOCALIC RR
Volaw: NA'VI VOWEL VOCALIC LL

Now, the pre-position consonant modifiers (these are pronounced before the vowel for diphthong):

Vomun: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN KEK ABOVE
Vopey: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN KXEKX ABOVE
Vosìng: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN KHAE ABOVE
Vomrr: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN NGENG ABOVE
Vofu: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TIFTANG ABOVE
Vohin: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN HAE ABOVE
Mevol: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TET ABOVE
Mevolaw: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TXETX ABOVE
Mevomun: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN SAE ABOVE
Mevopey: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN ZAE ABOVE
Mevosìng: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TSAE ABOVE
Mevomrr: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN RER ABOVE
Mevofu: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN LEL ABOVE
Mevohin: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN NEN ABOVE
Pxevol: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN PEP ABOVE
Pxevolaw: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN PXEPX ABOVE
Pxevomun: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN FAE ABOVE
Pxevopey: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN VAE ABOVE
Pxevosìng: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN MEM ABOVE
Pxevomrr: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN YAE ABOVE
Pxevofu: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN WAE ABOVE

These are nothing, really (although they may help you understand how the alphabet works):

Pxevohin: NAVI EJECTIVE MARK
Tsìvol: NAVI LENITION MARK
Tsìvolaw: NAVI SEMI-LENITION MARK

The post-position consonant modifiers (pronounced after the vowel or diphthong):

Tsìvomun: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN KEK BELOW
Tsìvopey: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN KXEKX BELOW
Tsìvosìng: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN NGENG BELOW
Tsìvomrr: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TIFTANG BELOW
Tsìvofu: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TET BELOW
Tsìvohin: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN TXETX BELOW
Mrrvol: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN RER BELOW
Mrrvolaw: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN LEL BELOW
Mrrvomun: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN NEN BELOW
Mrrvopey: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN PEP BELOW
Mrrvosìng: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN PXEPX BELOW
Mrrvomrr: NAVI CONSONANT SIGN MEM BELOW

These consonants are only used in the instances of consonant clusters:

Mrrvofu: NAVI CONSONANT FAE
Mrrvohin: NAVI CONSONANT SAE
Puvol: NAVI CONSONANT TSAE

The numerals (why not have them, even if this is an abugida alphabet?):

Puvolaw: NAVI NUMERAL KEW
Puvomun: NAVI NUMERAL AW
Puvopey: NAVI NUMERAL MUNE
Puvosìng: NAVI NUMERAL PXEY
Puvomrr: NAVI NUMERAL TSING
Puvofu: NAVI NUMERAL MRR
Puvohin: NAVI NUMERAL PUKAP
Kivol: NAVI NUMERAL KINA
Kivolaw: NAVI NUMERAL VOL
Kivomun: NAVI NUMERAL ZAM
Kivopey: NAVI NUMERAL VOZAM
Kivosìng: NAVI NUMERAL AZAM

Oh, and let's not forget about the four Na'vi diphthongs (these are treated like vowels):

Kivomrr: NAVI DIPHTHONG AY
Kivofu: NAVI DIPHTHONG AW
Kivohin: NAVI DIPHTHONG EY
Zam: NAVI DIPHTHONG EW

['Oma Tirea]

Additional notes and finds:

This alphabet, because it is limited to what it can do in the consonants, may be consistently reminding you of the phonotactics of Na'vi, especially if you use it correctly.  I designed it as such to be able to say words with long vowel sequences like "meoauniaea," and also consonant clusters and codas, like "ftang."

However, this alphabet doesn't (yet) have stress markers, and the punctuation is currently the same as in English.  I am also undecided as to whether the alphabet should read left-to-right or right-to-left.  However, it is decided that this alphabet is written in horizontal lines, like many other alphabets.  Whether it sits or whether it hangs is also undecided.

['Oma Tirea]

...and finally, I forgot to mention...

This is the first non-standard, easy-to-learn-from-and-use, (inverse) abugida alphabet created exclusively for Na'vi

[Reyi Pxaypxiwll]

*blown out of the water*

*claps*

It is very beautiful to look at, ma 'Oma Tirea, and very ingenious.  The concept is a bit more refined than the little substitution cipher I scratched up... but I find it an honor that said little cipher helped inspire this thing of beauty, even as it is a little incomplete (you did mention it's missing stress markers.)

As you are following my little script, I will reciprocate and follow yours, 'eyktan/'eykte 'Oma Tirea. ^^

Pokey: *rattlefweeg!*
*hugs pokey*

[Prrton]

I have some questions:

• Your forms look very "techno" to me. They look very much like symbols that I associate with math/science/logic notation on Earth. Do you have some "back story" for where they came from or are they just an alternate way to try to write Na'vi? I did this with Japanese kana here. Japanese (katakana) is particularly tough because of the R/L distinction and the ejectives. Na'vi could be rather easily written with the Cyrillic or Greek alphabets too. And Lance created a Tengwar mode. Is your system for a specific context?
  
  
• Why did you put vowels instead of consonants at the "center" of your abugida approach? And, why did you choose an abugida mindset? With the abugida systems that I know (Siddhaṃ, Thai, Tibetan), and know of (Devanagari, Fidel, Khmer, Burmese), the core of each syllable is consonantal. The vowels are added diacritically to (or in the case of Fidel (of Ethiopian) bound into) the consonants. With the vowel at the center, your system feels a bit more like a regular alphabet to me. It's just read in a ZZZZZZ pattern. Of course, there's nothing wrong, or inferior about that. I'm just wondering about your decision-making/design process.
  
  
• Which 'Rrtan abugida systems most influenced your decisions?
  
  

[Dreamlight]

It is quite strange. and arrowy XD it has some like mathematical geometricalness to it...hmm

Probably a description that would also apply to the Canadian aboriginal syllabics.

...any guesses at the text yet?

Spoiler

Slä sa'nokìri fpìlfya lu keteng. Po plltxe san tì'efumì oeyä sutekip nìwotx, ftxey Na'vi ftxey Sawtute, lu sìltsan, lu kawng sìk.

Lam set fwa Sawtute akawng holum, pum asìltsan 'ì'awn, ulte Na'viru set lu nawma eyktan amip a larmu Tawtute. Hu Sawtute a tsam lu hasey. Sìlpey Txewì tsnì tsivun set fko pivlltxe san frawzo.

I'm not sure if I'd technically call it an abugida, though, because the consonants hang on the vowels and not the other way around. I've never seen one work that way. An 'inverse abugida'..., maybe?

It's very legible.

I agree that it is stylistically reminiscent of Canadian syllabics.

Aargh.  I worked to decypher this (successfully) and find out it has already been done.  :b