Atxkxerel Eywa'evengä - Map of Pandora

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eejmensenikbenhet

So I was just wondering, why not create a map of Eywa's child?
Are there any people here who want to join in making this map?

I guess we just start at Kelutral Omatikayayä and then go on...
Somebody who wants to give this a try?

'Oma Tirea

One thing that can be noted from the movie: Kelutral is located some 50 kliks from Hell's Gate...

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Tirea Aean

I would imagine that this task would be very difficult as the only info we really know has been posted by 'Oma Tirea...


'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Tirea Aean on December 22, 2010, 12:47:13 AM
I would imagine that this task would be very difficult as the only info we really know has been posted by 'Oma Tirea...


AyHRRH, 'cause I HRRH ;)

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Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on December 20, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
One thing that can be noted from the movie: Kelutral is located some 50 kliks from Hell's Gate...

But if you look on picture below (it is from the moment, when Selfridge is searching the Omatikaya hometree on that holoprojector) - it seem like the distance is about 93 kilometers?



Other thing - at this moment me and one friend we are working on the map and gathering all the geographic informations. For the moment here is a map of bigger region ....


REFERENCES TO THE MAP BELOW:
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1 - Káwtuä Atkxkxé "Land of Nobody" = corner of a larger country, where many thanators can be found
2 - Anúraì = home of clan IRAKANO (Thanator Riders)
3 - Téyra Ayóra "White Lakes" = home of clan KXINAKOTA
4 - Virätxáyo "Wide Spreads" = home of clan VIRAKOTA
5  Plains of Goliath - Kaóliä Teì = entrance to hidden region Tantalus Ta'antasí, place of events in Avatar The Game
6 - Kxánìa Taw = home of clan PAYAKOTA, entrance to hidden region Vaderas Hollow Va'érä Ramúnong, place of events in Avatar The Game
7 - Tsáwla Heyn "Big Seat" = home of clan KXINIKXNIKIKA
8 - Hì'ia Heyn "Little Seat" =
9 - Sruséwa Kxa "Dancing Mouth" =
10 - Lìma Tul "Far run" =
11 - Lómo  =
12 - Lómpok  = home of clan POKONO
13 - Zongzék  =
14 - Papáng  = home of clan PAPAYA
15 - Pxllpx  =
16 - Weypxún "Calm Bay" = home of clan HUYAYA
17 - Txiktxìm  = home of clan TXIKTO (one of 5 Horsemen clan of the plains, Clan of the Mountain Fox), "txik" is a specie of mountain animal translated as "fox"
18 - Omekxán "Blue Barrier" = home of clan PXEYOTO (one of 5 Horsemen clan of the plains, Clan of the Cactus), "pxeyówll" is a specie of plant that gives food"fox"
19 - Ftxìfwäk "Tongue of Orchid" =
20 - Ayzá'liyä Atxkxé "Land of Unicorns" = home of clan ZALIMAKTO (one of 5 Horsemen clan of the plains, Clan of the Unicorn), "zá'li" is a kind of horse with one horn"
21 - Ayfá'liyä Atxkxé "Land of Direhorses" = home of clan PALIMAKTO (one of 5 Horsemen clan of the plains, Clan of the Dire Horse)
22 - Ayáuä Teì "Land of Drums" = home of clan AUTU (one of 5 Horsemen clan of the plains, Clan of the Talking Drum), "áu" is a kind of drum used to communicate in long distances"
23 - 'Éle'a Ná'rìng  "Thorny Wood" =
24 - Yìm  "The Binding" =
25 - Spxámeng "Mushroom Chasm" =
26 - Sngiäng =
27 - Snutséng =
28 Hallelujah Mountains - Kxusánga Ayskxé  "Thundering Rocks" = place of movie events, place of a rite IKNIMAYA
29 - Tárontxar = home of clan OMATIKAYA (Guardians of Blue Flute), place of movie events
30 - Kxáylakx "Highlands" = home of clan KXAYLU
31 - Fwélakx  "Broken Lands" =
32 - Kxénera Ayrám  "Smoky Mountains" =
33 - Yápayä Ná'rìng "Mistwood" = home of clan OMASAYA
34 - Yómatan "Light Eater Swamp" = home of clan WAMPANOAPA
35 - Tìpik = home of clan TIPIKAYA
36 - Syén'aw  "Last Island" =
37 - Tórukä Ná'rìng  "Wood of Leonopteryx" = place of events in Avatar The Game
38 - Swótulu "Sacred River" = home of clan TIPANI, place of events in Avatar The Game
39 - Aywáyä Ná'rìng "Wood of Songs" = home of clan OWAMI
40 - Ngíma Tìrán  "Long Way" =
41 - Tsyor  =
42 - Héwkeì  =
43 - Íkrana Ayáwkx  "Banshee Cliffs" =
44 - Táronyuä Tsúrokx  "Hunters Respite" =
45 - Apxáì  = home of clan APXAROKA
46 - Zamúngri  =
47 - Vofuhilván "Fourteen Rivers" = home of clan NYANKAYA
48  Blue Lagoon - Ehó'nyongol = home of clan NYONGOLA, place of events in Avatar The Game, RDA base Blue Lagoon with scientist camp lead by doctor Reno Harper
49  Needle Hills - Pxía Aysré "Sharp Teeths" = place of events in Avatar The Game, RDA base Needle Hills
50  FEBA - Tstéuä Fpéio "Challenge of Brave" = entrance to hidden region Lost Cathedral Tìréyä Txep "Fire of Life", place of events in Avatar The Game
51 Grave's Bog - Txópuä Fpéio "Challenge of Fear" =  place of events in Avatar The Game
52 Hanging Gardens - Tíreayä Fpéio "Challenge of Spirit" = place of events in Avatar The Game
53 - Pxetsáwkeyä Tse'á  "Three Sun Watch" = in some periods is possible here to see all three suns
54 - Pámtseoä Lur  "Valley of Music" =
55 - Txúkxpay "Lake Deepwater" = home of clan TAWTSYAYA
56 - Wáytelem  "Songchord Waterfalls" = one of the biggest waterfalls on Pandora
57 - Íkrana Veyatsé = home of clan VAYAHA
58 - Íknimaya  "Path to Heaven" =
59 - Íkranä Kel  "Home of Banshees" =
60 - Ikskxé "Sky Rocks" =
61 - Tswayonkxé = home of clan IKTSWAYA (Ikran People of the Eastern Sea)
62 - Txampáyä Fahéw "Smell of Sea" = home of clan TXAMPONGA
63 - Tórtsyìp "Little end" =
64 - Ayäíeyä Ná'rìng  "Wood of Visions" = home of clan OPI, ritual called "ta'opia'éywahu'ana"
65 - Ayfkíoä Ayóra  "Lakes of Tetrapterons" =
66 - Ayrítiyä Ayóra  "Lakes of Stingbats" =
67 - Tìfnúä Ná'rìng  "Wood of Silence" =
68 - Mawéyä Ná'rìng  "Wood of Calm" = home of clan OKITANKAYA, ritual called "ta'meri'éywahu'ana"
69 - Txóayä Téswo  "Certainty of Forgivness" =
70 - Ayhufwéyä Tìról  "Song of Winds" = home of clan TAWKAMI (Sky Seers)
71 - Sópuyä Ram  "Mountain of Travellers" =
72 - Kxám "The Middle" =
73 - Wéswetx  =

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SOURCES:   
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   www.learnnavi.org
      www.forum.learnnavi.org
      www.james-camerons-avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_Wiki
      Activist Survival Guide (Maria Wilhelm, Dirk Mathison)

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DESCRIPTION OF DISPUTABLE REGIONS:
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2 - Anúraì, 3 - Téyra Ayóra - These regions are home of clans IRAKANO (Thanator Riders) and KXINIKXINIKA, which should be the clans ANURAI and LIONA from the Wii/PSP game. The names of these clan in my map are different. This is because me and some friends we have started a RPG game long time ago, before these informations appeared on the Avatar_Wiki site.  I didnt play that game, but the plot of the game inspired me in our RPG.  So on the map I keep our names.  Just the region takes the name of the clan ANURAI, for respect to the game.  Anyway, the Wii/PSP game is not canonical.

5 - Kaóliä Teì and  Ta'antasí (Plains of Goliath and Tantalus), 6 - ]Kxánìa Taw and  Va'érä Ramunong, 37 - Torukä Ná'rìng, 39 - Swótulu, 48 - Ehó'nyongol (Blue Lagoon), 49 - Pxía Aysré (Needle Hills), 50 -Tstéuä Fpéio (FEBA), 51 - Txópuä Fpéio(Graves Bog), 52 - Tíreayä Fpéio and Tìréyä Txep (Hanging Gardens and Lost Cathedral) - Alle these regions are from the PC/PS3 game. In the game they are in different places on the planet, in longer distances from Hells Gate and in other continents. But in the multiplayer position of some of these regions is changed. So I think it does not matter, if I placed them closer to Hells Gate on my map. Anyway, the Wii/PSP game is not canonical too.

17 - Txiktxìm, 18 - Omekxán, 19 - Ftxìfwäk, 20 - Ayzá'liyä Atxkxé, 21 - Ayfá'liyä Atxkxé, 22 - Ayáuä Teì - in movie are mentioned horseclans from the plains. In the PC game is a model of planet (like on the picter in corner of map), where is turning day and nigt cycle and I suppose, where the planetsurface glows with nets of light, there is forest and where glows not, there are grasslands or swamps or rocky mountains without much vegetation. In the movie when Jake with Neytiri are going to visit the horseclans, the grassland in the night do not glows. All about the horseclans on my map is invented. Mayby clan PALIMAKTO should be that clan, which is visited by Jake and Neytiri.

39 - Swótulu - Home of Tipani clan. In the PC game their hometree is placed in very different place, near of the planet pole. Because the game is not canonical, I decided place them closer to Hells Gate, what looks to me more authentical.

58 - Íknimaya - Avatar_Wiki says about this word:
■Iknimaya is a treacherous but fundamental rite of passage in which a young Na'vi must select, capture, and successfully bond with one of the ikran who nest in the Hallelujah Mountains.
■Iknimaya is also the name given to the path by which the Na'vi ascend to the ikran rookery.
So for this reason I think it does not matter, that I gave same name to the region 58. I think on Pandora should be lot of these regions.


61 - Tswayonkxé - This region I choosed like a home of the clan Ikran People clan from Eastern Sea, mentioned in the movie, and I gave them name Iktswaya.


70 - Ayhufwéyä Tìról - This region is home of clan Tawkami, which act in the game for Nintendo DS. I didnt play that game, but I have placed Tawkami to this mountain region accordingly to their name "Sky seers". Anyway, the Nintedno DS game is not canonical too.
Srekrr tsatskxétsyìp tolúl tsáwla ayskxéä tìzusúpit...

'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Pxipxúntil on January 15, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: Sxkxawng alu 'Oma Tirea on December 20, 2010, 10:53:59 PM
One thing that can be noted from the movie: Kelutral is located some 50 kliks from Hell's Gate...

But if you look on picture below (it is from the moment, when Selfridge is searching the Omatikaya hometree on that holoprojector) - it seem like the distance is about 93 kilometers?

I was actually looking at where that number started at and ended at when the projector's map was being moved, and took the difference.  It turns out it's 50 km.

That should add a decent scale to your map :)

[img]http://swokaikran.skxawng.lu/sigbar/nwotd.php?p=2b[/img]

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Ikran Ahiyìk

They are in the lower right hand corner (scroll the bar to see...)

But... There's no human scale and "Na'vi scale" - 1 km is 1 km, fixed distance.. What you can do is create an unit and tell others what that unit means.. For example "1 queue length of average Na'vi adult" ...
Plltxe nìhiyìk na ikran... oe fmeri sìltsan nì'ul slivu, ngaytxoa...


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'Oma Tirea

OK now this seeme to be even more puzzling.  It looks like it's 150 kliks out from Hell's gate, which is conflicting what Parker Selfridge said:

QuoteTheir damn village... within 100 kliks in any direction.

Maybe the scale needs a little re-adjustment ???

[img]http://swokaikran.skxawng.lu/sigbar/nwotd.php?p=2b[/img]

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Ikran Ahiyìk

Plltxe nìhiyìk na ikran... oe fmeri sìltsan nì'ul slivu, ngaytxoa...


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Pxipxúntil

#12
Skxawng alu Oma Tirea
Oh yes, you are right - I did look againt that scene and the number starts at 42 km. Anyway the position of Omatikaya hometree, Hells Gate and Unobtanium Mine is not drawed correctly, just roughly, because this map is proposed to a board game (on what I am working with few friends) where the correct distance would interfere at this scale of whole area that represent my map. But based on this, I will do some corrections.

Ikran Ahiyik
You are right - there is no scale for Navi and in fact, we dont know nothing about the measures of navi. But the "Scale for Navi" on my map is meaned little bit different - Because their height is about 3 meters, their perception of distances has to be different than our. Average height of humans is about 1,75 meters, so if I use the cross-multiplication, I get result 350 (= 600 x 175/300). That mean human 600 kilometers are for Navi just 350 kilometres.

So, the distance between Hells Gate and Omatikaya Hometree is 51 kilometers? And 100 (or 150? 200?) kilometers around Hells Gate is not any unobtanium deposit?
Srekrr tsatskxétsyìp tolúl tsáwla ayskxéä tìzusúpit...

eejmensenikbenhet

Quote from: Pxipxúntil on January 16, 2011, 05:04:43 PM
Skxawng alu Oma Tirea
Oh yes, you are right - I did look againt that scene and the number starts at 42 km. Anyway the position of Omatikaya hometree, Hells Gate and Unobtanium Mine is not drawed correctly, just roughly, because this map is proposed to a board game (on what I am working with few friends) where the correct distance would interfere at this scale of whole area that represent my map. But based on this, I will do some corrections.

Ikran Ahiyik
You are right - there is no scale for Navi and in fact, we dont know nothing about the measures of navi. But the "Scale for Navi" on my map is meaned little bit different - Because their height is about 3 meters, their perception of distances has to be different than our. Average height of humans is about 1,75 meters, so if I use the cross-multiplication, I get result 350 (= 600 x 175/300). That mean human 600 kilometers are for Navi just 350 kilometres.

So, the distance between Hells Gate and Omatikaya Hometree is 51 kilometers? And 100 (or 150? 200?) kilometers around Hells Gate is not any unobtanium deposit?
I believe he said that the source of unobtanium under kelultral omatikayayä was the biggest within a circle of 200 kilometres...

'Oma Tirea

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