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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2010, 09:46:48 pm »
Also snga'ikrr (beginning, start time) has the wrong sound file.

Fixed

Shouldn't skxawng's phonetics be [sk'awng] not with the glottal stop as is in the program?

I'm using learnnavi.org's vocabulary set and it currently uses: skxawng [skʔawŋ] n. Moron
Can we get some others to confirm this change is needed?

It would be great if it had the option to give you and English word and then you have to translate it to Na'vi.

There is now a quiz drop down. You can choose from translating a Na'vi word to English, choosing an image to match a Na'vi word and translating an English word to Na'vi.

When word set has loaded there is a drop down to swap between single word/image view and multiple translate/image mode. All the quiz types have this mode switch now.

Current developments

There is a new set of sound file corrections in the pipe.
New images will continue to filter in as I have time.
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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2010, 10:10:58 pm »
Is that Adobe Flex I smell?  Let me know if you need any help with developing the tool.  It would be pretty awesome if this was turned into an open source community project for the software developers in community to help out with.


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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 07:36:28 pm »
Is that Adobe Flex I smell?
Yep. I'll think about the open source idea.

Audio
Ftiafpi's submitted changes and additions are now included. 20 more spoken words.
Irayo!

In development
User audio uploads and approval.
User submitted word/corrections and approval.
Phrases/simple dialog area.
Canned lessons area.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2010, 08:14:10 pm »
In development
User audio uploads and approval.
User submitted word/corrections and approval.
Phrases/simple dialog area.
Canned lessons area.

Totally looking forward to these!

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2010, 11:43:02 pm »
Irongamer these are some seriously solid changes you're making, easily the best resource for learning.  If you go through with those planned additions it will be amazing.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #25 on: January 12, 2010, 10:51:42 pm »
Brilliant, Brilliant tool, irongamer!  I've been using it nonstop since i discovered it.

A few small suggestions

Listing parts of speech may be helpful.  Learning how the words are used in context is almost as important as learning the literal meanings.  Words like Peel (fkarut).  Does it mean something like an apple peel, or to peel an apple?  And why is it in the mind/body section?  that sounds uncomfortable >.<

A section for parts of speech, such as verbs,  connectors and so on.  Learning them together in their infinitive (base?) form may be helpful

Once again, thank you very much!
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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #26 on: January 12, 2010, 11:11:09 pm »
Brilliant, Brilliant tool, irongamer!  I've been using it nonstop since i discovered it.

A few small suggestions

Listing parts of speech may be helpful.  Learning how the words are used in context is almost as important as learning the literal meanings.  Words like Peel (fkarut).  Does it mean something like an apple peel, or to peel an apple?  And why is it in the mind/body section?  that sounds uncomfortable >.<

A section for parts of speech, such as verbs,  connectors and so on.  Learning them together in their infinitive (base?) form may be helpful

Once again, thank you very much!

If you want a sentence or phrase recorded irongamer just ask. I'd be happy to help and I know there are other out there as well that would love to do something like get some phrases out there.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2010, 09:26:12 pm »
Build and content update

Fixed a bug related to loading two few of words when multi image/word mode is already enabled.

New "Body, Mind" image association content.
New "Interactions" image association content.

In progress

Still working on user submitted uploads and corrections.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2010, 09:33:56 pm »
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Listing parts of speech may be helpful.  Learning how the words are used in context is almost as important as learning the literal meanings.  Words like Peel (fkarut).  Does it mean something like an apple peel, or to peel an apple?  And why is it in the mind/body section?  that sounds uncomfortable >.<

A section for parts of speech, such as verbs,  connectors and so on.  Learning them together in their infinitive (base?) form may be helpful

Haha, I'll look into the peel issue.
Yes, I think those other areas will be helpful. I'll see where they can fit into the road map.

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If you want a sentence or phrase recorded irongamer just ask. I'd be happy to help and I know there are other out there as well that would love to do something like get some phrases out there.

This would be awesome. If you have some favorites that you want to record go ahead and PM me the audio and I'll work on a phrase / sentence area.

The user submission / correction aspect is coming along but taking a bit longer since I am learning a new framework as I build it. So in the meantime I will be adding new areas to the flash app itself, so send all the sentences / phrases you want and I'll work them in.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2010, 01:48:48 am »
There is now a phrases area in the language tool.

Dr. Frommer's response is included in the phrases area.
The response is broken into sentences and includes a full audio version as well.

These audio files may take longer to load. There is a loading animation to let you
know the file is loading. The speaker icon shows up when it is ready. Clicking the
speaker icon will play the audio. Once playing a stop button will show up.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #30 on: January 21, 2010, 06:14:39 am »
Hi mate,

Just started playing with this - and I'm very impressed. Good work fella!

Edit: Found a small mistake, was in a quiz and the question read "rey - ['r3.nu]" instead of [r*3j]
(not easy to do the IPA on this machine - so 3 = eh)
(r* being the flap obviously)

Cheers.
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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #31 on: January 21, 2010, 09:36:17 am »
Hi mate,

Just started playing with this - and I'm very impressed. Good work fella!

Edit: Found a small mistake, was in a quiz and the question read "rey - ['r3.nu]" instead of [r*3j]
(not easy to do the IPA on this machine - so 3 = eh)
(r* being the flap obviously)

Cheers.

Thanks for the feedback.  ;D


The language set used in this tool is based on the Learn Navi website.

This is the current entry for "rey":

rey ['ɾɛ.nu] v. Live

It does appear that the IPA could be a little different.
I'm no linguist, so I'd need some confirmation or some
source data to make sure the change is needed.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #32 on: January 21, 2010, 10:03:22 am »
Very nice, thanks!!

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2010, 10:29:57 am »
rey ['ɾɛ.nu] v. Live

It does appear that the IPA could be a little different.
I'm no linguist, so I'd need some confirmation or some
source data to make sure the change is needed.
Pretty sure Taronyu's dictionary lists ɾɛj which is right as far as my knowledge of IPA goes.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2010, 02:07:33 pm »
Update

Made some changes to how audio is handled and how the audio controls work.

You will now find a little icon with a bug and pencil throughout the application. Click
on this icon to send feedback and/or text corrections.

In progress
Updates to audio should happen this weekend.
Additional words and corrections should happen this weekend.

Down the road
File uploads.
Multi-lingual support.

Zoli contacted me about adding Hungarian to the quiz areas. When I get the
translation list I will be adding a language drop down for the entire application.
This will change the language for the word set. When I get around to it all
the interface text will be translated as well.



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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2010, 02:44:44 pm »
Update

There is now a spelling quiz area in the vocabulary section.
Navigation changes to make room for coming features.

In progress
Updates to audio should happen later today.
Additional words and corrections should happen later today.

Down the road
File uploads.
Multi-lingual support.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2010, 02:49:43 pm »
Great updates. I am very excited to see the work your doing on this project, and im very glad that your continuing to update it. You deserve more karma :D

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2010, 02:50:12 pm »
Agreed, excellent work.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #38 on: January 24, 2010, 03:04:26 pm »
rey ['ɾɛ.nu] v. Live

It does appear that the IPA could be a little different.
I'm no linguist, so I'd need some confirmation or some
source data to make sure the change is needed.
Pretty sure Taronyu's dictionary lists ɾɛj which is right as far as my knowledge of IPA goes.

Just stumbled upon the problem while testing out the spelling area. It appears that "live" (rey) was
using the IPA for "pattern" (renu). The IPA for "rey" has been updated in the app.

I sent a correction notice to learnnavi.org as it is mixed up there as well.

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Re: Na'vi Language Tool (Audio,Images,Vocab)
« Reply #39 on: January 24, 2010, 06:13:21 pm »
Content Update

A few new audio files.
All audio files by Ftiafpi are now the latest versions.
Thanks Ftiafpi.

New words added from Dr. Frommer's message, thanks to Seabass.
You can find his post here: http://forum.learnnavi.org/intermediate/language-update-a-closer-look-at-dr-frommers-letter/

 

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