Na'vi spoken dialog

[Txen Seri Unil]

Kaltxi!

This is a great resource! Thank you for putting this together. I am excited for version 2.0! Also I think the English, Na'vi, English is a great idea. I think some programs for teaching languages use the same method. I'll see if one of the Skype folks can have a listen for any errors. I don't know the language well enough. :/

Eywa ngahu,
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[Night Raider]

Awesome!!! Irayo ma tsmukan!

[Taronyu]

You know, I honestly thought you were joking.

By all means. Let's integrate this into my dictionary. That'd be the coolest thing since Spok. [Isnt is Spock? -NFS]

[irongamer]

If it is ok with you Ftiafpi I will be adding those to the tool I am working on at: www.irongamer.net/navi/

If you don't want them on there I will pull them down. You've been added to the Audio Credits.

[Ftiafpi]

Sure thing iron gamer, I'd love to see these used as much as possible.

[Ftiafpi]

There, first official batch, just want you guys to take one last look before I create a post in the beginners forum. I'm hoping to have the second batch done tomorrow and will post them here for review before they go into the beginners forum.

http://www.archive.org/compress/NaviWords

[omängum fra'uti]

Ah so this is the source of the mispronunciations on the irongamer quiz.

Here's the feedback I gave there...


tseng(e): It is being pronounced "tsa'eng" - it's one syllable (Excluding the -e) and should be pronounced as such.
rutxe: The /r/ is being pronounced like the English /r/ not the Na'vi /r/, but that could just sound that way because it's right as the clip starts.
pxay: It sounds like it's being said as pxey not pxay
olo'eyktan: I'm not hearing the glottal stop
krr: It's got a little bit of an extra vowelish sound after the /rr/, sounds like krra
Irayo: Sounds more like ìrayo or erayo
Hapxì: Sounds like hapxe
Fkeu: Sounds like fìkeu, should be no pause, fke is one syllable

[Mawey Seze]

These are spectacular, very nice sound quality.

[Ftiafpi]

tseng(e): It is being pronounced "tsa'eng" - it's one syllable (Excluding the -e) and should be pronounced as such.
rutxe: The /r/ is being pronounced like the English /r/ not the Na'vi /r/, but that could just sound that way because it's right as the clip starts.
pxay: It sounds like it's being said as pxey not pxay
olo'eyktan: I'm not hearing the glottal stop
krr: It's got a little bit of an extra vowelish sound after the /rr/, sounds like krra
Irayo: Sounds more like ìrayo or erayo
Hapxì: Sounds like hapxe
Fkeu: Sounds like fìkeu, should be no pause, fke is one syllable

Excellent, I figured it was impossible I got all of these word right the first try. I will make changes tonight when I get back from work.

[Ftiafpi]

Oh and if anyone has any words they specifically would like to hear me pronounce (hopefully correctly) in Na'vi in an upcoming batch of dialog I would be happy to accommodate you.

[Numeie]

Oh and if anyone has any words they specifically would like to hear me pronounce (hopefully correctly) in Na'vi in an upcoming batch of dialog I would be happy to accommodate you.

'ok

I want to hear what a word-initial glottal stop sounds like.

[Ftiafpi]

A glottal stop before a word is best practiced by opening your mouth, forming the sound, and then putting pressure in your throat/mouth with your lungs but not releasing the air in your throat. Then, release the air and speak the word. The best example of this in English is "uh-oh", only just say the -oh. Start by saying uh- and then stop for a second, then say -oh. There, you just did a word beginning with a glottal stop.

That said, I will do plenty of the Na'vi glottal stop words since I know they're very hard to understand (took me forever to get the concept down, even harder to do in practice).

[omängum fra'uti]

They were asking specifically for an initial glottal stop, like 'awpo or such.

[Ftiafpi]

They were asking specifically for an initial glottal stop, like 'awpo or such.

Oh, I know, like I said, I'll make plenty and I'll make sure to send them a direct link to the sound file.

[Ftiafpi]

I've updated the words and created a post in both the beginners forum and the audio forum linking to this file: http://www.archive.org/compress/NaviWords

Also, I've created a Na'vi only version of the words which can be downloaded here: http://www.archive.org/compress/NaviWordsnoEnglish
You can also access individual words using the page (useful if you want to make a link to just a single word):

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http://www.archive.org/details/NaviWordsnoEnglish
(I had to use the code command on the link because for some reason the forum keeps auto correcting it to a different URL)

Also, I've added omängum fra'uti's audio in here as well (with myself adding English translations to the files).

[Ftiafpi]

'ok

I want to hear what a word-initial glottal stop sounds like.

Here you go, this is the word 'Evang (child). I might have over emphasized the glottal stop and that 'g' on the end but you get the idea, it's not eh-v-eh-nng it's 'Eh-v-eh-nng

'Eveng: http://ia341332.us.archive.org/3/items/Eveng/Eveng.mp3

[Taronyu]

Here you are Ftiafpi. Let me know what words are added, when you have more.

The Audio Dictionary

[kewnya txamew'itan]

the audio dictionary is very impressive.

That said we have to make sure that this is perfect so as not to corrupt newcomers and so I'm trying to find any mistakes, so far I've found the following: the clip for Na'vi seems to be being pronounced Nä'vi. Also nari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In the apxa clip the first "a" sounds a bit like a "ä" and the ejective is only just ejected (it's good, not quite as in your face as mine but some people might miss it and this that a px is a p). Atan is being pronounced with "ä"s not "a"s. fkeu is being pronounced with a [ ʊ ] in between the f and k, also, should this be fkew and therefore pronounced [ fkɛʊ ] not [ fkɛ.u ]?

In hufwe the u is lax when it should not be. Kaltxì is definitely being pronounced kältxì. Like nari, menari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In Mikyun the u is lax being and is a [ ʊ ] not a [ u ]. Mokri seems to have an English r although I'm less sure of this than of the other rs. Munge is being pronounced mune, the ng has been replaced with n. Muntxa is being pronounced as if it ends in ä not a. Na'rìng is said with an English r.

I only have time to check the first half now, I'll do the others later. If you want I can record so words and send them to you as well.

[Ftiafpi]

the audio dictionary is very impressive.

That said we have to make sure that this is perfect so as not to corrupt newcomers and so I'm trying to find any mistakes, so far I've found the following: the clip for Na'vi seems to be being pronounced Nä'vi. Also nari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In the apxa clip the first "a" sounds a bit like a "ä" and the ejective is only just ejected (it's good, not quite as in your face as mine but some people might miss it and this that a px is a p). Atan is being pronounced with "ä"s not "a"s. fkeu is being pronounced with a [ ʊ ] in between the f and k, also, should this be fkew and therefore pronounced [ fkɛʊ ] not [ fkɛ.u ]?

In hufwe the u is lax when it should not be. Kaltxì is definitely being pronounced kältxì. Like nari, menari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In Mikyun the u is lax being and is a [ ʊ ] not a [ u ]. Mokri seems to have an English r although I'm less sure of this than of the other rs. Munge is being pronounced mune, the ng has been replaced with n. Muntxa is being pronounced as if it ends in ä not a. Na'rìng is said with an English r.

I only have time to check the first half now, I'll do the others later. If you want I can record so words and send them to you as well.

EXCELLENT! This is awesome, I'm still at work so I'll make these changes right away when I get home. This is exactly the kind of help we need since, as you said, this has to be perfect so as not to corrupt the inexperienced. I think that's one of the reasons there's not many recorded clips of Na'vi out there because people aren't 100% sure on pronunciations and I really hope this will help.

As for more dialog, yes please! The more the better. Just pick random words that haven't been done yet, record them and send them to me (however you want, I can give you my email if preferred). If you want you can add the English-Na'vi-English part to the soundfiles but if not I can just add that in myself and I have plenty of audio editing software for cleaning up the audio files and whatnot.

This is going to be awesome, if we had like 2 more people working on this I bet we could get all the words done in a couple weeks easily!

[ANiceSunset]

the audio dictionary is very impressive.

That said we have to make sure that this is perfect so as not to corrupt newcomers and so I'm trying to find any mistakes, so far I've found the following: the clip for Na'vi seems to be being pronounced Nä'vi. Also nari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In the apxa clip the first "a" sounds a bit like a "ä" and the ejective is only just ejected (it's good, not quite as in your face as mine but some people might miss it and this that a px is a p). Atan is being pronounced with "ä"s not "a"s. fkeu is being pronounced with a [ ʊ ] in between the f and k, also, should this be fkew and therefore pronounced [ fkɛʊ ] not [ fkɛ.u ]?

In hufwe the u is lax when it should not be. Kaltxì is definitely being pronounced kältxì. Like nari, menari has an English r not an alveolar flap. In Mikyun the u is lax being and is a [ ʊ ] not a [ u ]. Mokri seems to have an English r although I'm less sure of this than of the other rs. Munge is being pronounced mune, the ng has been replaced with n. Muntxa is being pronounced as if it ends in ä not a. Na'rìng is said with an English r.

I only have time to check the first half now, I'll do the others later. If you want I can record so words and send them to you as well.

EXCELLENT! This is awesome, I'm still at work so I'll make these changes right away when I get home. This is exactly the kind of help we need since, as you said, this has to be perfect so as not to corrupt the inexperienced. I think that's one of the reasons there's not many recorded clips of Na'vi out there because people aren't 100% sure on pronunciations and I really hope this will help.

As for more dialog, yes please! The more the better. Just pick random words that haven't been done yet, record them and send them to me (however you want, I can give you my email if preferred). If you want you can add the English-Na'vi-English part to the soundfiles but if not I can just add that in myself and I have plenty of audio editing software for cleaning up the audio files and whatnot.

This is going to be awesome, if we had like 2 more people working on this I bet we could get all the words done in a couple weeks easily!

Do you use some fancy sophisticated recording thingiemajig to record or just a regular microphone...