Na'vi Linux distro (Na'viOS?)

[akiwiguy]

Um, what? Why not just install Kubuntu?

Because I've gort 10 CD's of 32bit Ubuntu from Shipit already and I don't want to download the Kubuntu ISO. Plus, I don't have any blank CD's.

[Nusumea Tirea]

Awsome Idea.

I don't know Ubuntu (I got lots of SuSE at work  ) and don't really have much free time but I could help a bit with translation into german (if needed) and perl scripting.

[Elektrolurch]

From what I know, Ubuntu is smaller than openSUSE, but I'd be glad if someone taught us about the real differences.

[Muzer]

SuSE has possibly the worst package manager of all time.

[Elektrolurch]

SuSE has possibly the worst package manager of all time.

-.-

So what?

[akiwiguy]

SuSE has possibly the worst package manager of all time.

Yes. Totally agree with you. Me <3 pacman from Arch Linux.

[Nusumea Tirea]

I just have older older Laptops at Home and open Suse and KDE where starting verrrry slow.
I just installed Kubuntu now and I'm positively surprised  .

[Kekerusey]

SuSE has possibly the worst package manager of all time.

I think YaST (which I assume you're referring to) is amongst the best Linux package managers.

Keke

[Tuiq]

Does it have super cows?

[Elektrolurch]

Does, btw, ANYONE know a program where you can create own themes? Would be nice... I could work on that..

[akiwiguy]

Does it have super cows?

No. apt-get and Aptitude do though.

Spoiler

eltulefngapeveng@combine:~/mingw-cross-env-2.15$ apt-get moo
         (__)
         (oo)
   /------\/
  / |    ||   
*  /\---/\
    ~~   ~~   
...."Have you mooed today?"...
eltulefngapeveng@combine:~/mingw-cross-env-2.15$ aptitude -vvvvv moo
All right, you win.

                                   /----\
                          -------/      \
                          /               \
                         /                |
   -----------------/                  --------\
   ----------------------------------------------
eltulefngapeveng@combine:~/mingw-cross-env-2.15$ aptitude -vvvvvv moo
What is it?  It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.

[Muzer]

Why did you abridge the aptitude easter egg?

Anyway, YaST is awful for the following reasons:

* Slow
* No real command-line interface (ncurses doesn't count)
* Slow
* Relatively few packages in the repo
* Did I mention it was slow?
* Not nearly as versatile as apt and aptitude
* Not the quickest thing is the world

[Kekerusey]

Why did you abridge the aptitude easter egg?

Anyway, YaST is awful for the following reasons:

* Slow
* No real command-line interface (ncurses doesn't count)
* Slow
* Relatively few packages in the repo
* Did I mention it was slow?
* Not nearly as versatile as apt and aptitude
* Not the quickest thing is the world

So ... for versatile read "confusing", HRH 

As far as I'm concerned YaST works, it puts shortcuts pretty much where I'd expect them ... in the highly unlikely situation I could ever embrace LInux as my primary OS (and, trust me, I have tried) YaST is one of the major reasons I would choose SuSE.

Keke

[akiwiguy]

Why did you abridge the aptitude easter egg?

I dunno.

... YaST is one of the major reasons I would choose SuSE.

Eww...

PLEASE use a distro that uses apt, pacman, or anything that isn't YaST.

Not having a command line interface sucks.
The first time I installed OpenSuSE, I opened up a terminal and looked for a command-line based package installer.
Didn't find one. Formatted hard drive, installed Mac OS X.
OS X kernel panicked during an update, formatted and installed Windows XP.
Realised I had installed Vista instead of XP, formatted and installed Debian.

[xMine]

I don't know if that was mentioned before, but:
Don't you think, that a new distro is a bit overkill?
I'd be happy with a translation of KDE and a KDM avatar theme.
To create a new distro you must be a very experienced linux user...

I've already translated a program to na'vi ... it was partially really a pain
to find words that are good.
Anyway, if you're working on something, just let me know, when I
can contribute something, it'd be even better!

Kìyevame

[Elektrolurch]

And please think about us GNOME users

[Muzer]

I don't know if that was mentioned before, but:
Don't you think, that a new distro is a bit overkill?
I'd be happy with a translation of KDE and a KDM avatar theme.
To create a new distro you must be a very experienced linux user...

Have you any reason to believe that I'm not?

The intention was actually just making it easy for a beginner (someone who has only had one or two distros) to get a completely customised-for-Na'vi distro.

I've already translated a program to na'vi ... it was partially really a pain
to find words that are good.

Indeed - I'm nearly 50% through Opera - not exactly a small program by any means (about 10000 lines in the translation file). It's been a real challenge!

Anyway, if you're working on something, just let me know, when I
can contribute something, it'd be even better!

Kìyevame

Of course.

[akiwiguy]

I don't know if that was mentioned before, but:
Don't you think, that a new distro is a bit overkill?
I'd be happy with a translation of KDE and a KDM avatar theme.
To create a new distro you must be a very experienced linux user...

Not really overkill.
And please don't automatically assume that we don't know much about Linux. I know quite a bit, Muzer probably knows more.
Plus, just translating KDE won't do. You need to translate quite a lot of GUI apps as well (Opera, OOo, XChat if we include that, TeamSpeak etc.)

[Kekerusey]

In order to translate an OS, desktop or app do you have to trawl through all the code then or is there a word file somewhere?

Keke

[Muzer]

There's usually a text file as part of the source code with all the strings in that (I believe) gets converted into a binary to save space and time (I might be wrong about this, though - I haven't used gettext before). Opera, however, because it is closed-source, just stores all translations in a plain text file and reads them directly from there.