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Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« on: March 07, 2014, 01:42:48 pm »
I have been away for white awhile but I has returned, at least for a bit.  This is one of those sites I always somehow trickle back to.

I have recently become really active in my spirituality with a club I help to run at my college called the Neo-Pagan Alliance.  I have been studying Druidry for a few months now and I think it would be really great to translate some of the songs and chants and whatnot into Na'vi.  So that is my new project (and honestly, the reason I came back).

If anyone is interested in helping out with translations or double checking my work or suggesting songs or even using my translations, please let me know!

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Ancient Mother
Woman Am I
Hoof and Horn
The Sweeping Chant
Earth my Body
Standing
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« Last Edit: March 08, 2014, 12:54:26 pm by Run'ai »

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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2014, 02:43:57 pm »
Fìtsenge:

Koaka sa'nok
Koaka sa'nok, oel stawm ngat syeraw
Koaka sa'nok, oel stawm ngeyä wayit
Koaka sa'nok, oel stawm ngeyä *tìhangham
Koaka sa'nok, oel ewku ngeyä tsngawpayvit


Tute oe lu
Tute oe lu, tira oe lu,
Oe lu ketxewnga' mì vitra.
Ke lu oeru sngä'itseng ulte ke lu oeru tì'i'a.
Fìfra'u oe lu.


As for the last one, no idea what hoof and horn in Na'vi... :-X

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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2014, 03:08:50 pm »
I don't think "koak" is good word for "ancient", it's not the same meaning. My attempt:

Sa'nok a ta 'okrol
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Sa'nok a ta 'okrol, oel stawm ngey(ä) tìsyusawit
Sa'nok a ta 'okrol, oel stawm ngey(ä) tìrolit (or wayit)
Sa'nok a ta 'okrol, oel stawm futa hangham nga
Sa'nok a ta 'okrol, oel ewku ngey(ä) tsngawpayit
(here we can discuss if ewku or may', but as stawm is -control verb, we should use ewku, as it is -control verb too)
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Tuté lu oe
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Tuté lu oe, tirea lu oe
Mì vitra ke lu oer tì'i'a
Kea sngä'itseng, kea tì'i'a ke lu oer
Fra'u oe lu

As for the last chant - I think not exact words are important, but rhymes. But it's not easy to create rhymes in Na'vi. I'll try to think more...
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2014, 03:32:11 pm »
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Sa'nok a ta 'okrol
"Woman from the history", eltur tìten si. "Ancient" means that something is "old", from the past, but I know it don't fit so well.
But I got an idea:

Sa'nok a ta ftawnemkrr
Sa'nok a ta ftawnemkrr, oel stawm ngeyä tìsyusawit
Sa'nok a ta ftawnemkrr, oel stawm ngeyä tìrolit / wayit
Sa'nok a ta ftawnemkrr, oel stawm ngeyä tìhusangham
Sa'nok a ta ftawnemkrr, oel ewku ngeyä tsngawpayit


I wouldn't use may', stawm and ewku are fit well there.


For the last one, I tryed this:

Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Fra'u a terkup, 'ayongokx nìmun
Rina' tsyosyusì / syuvesì
Rina' tsyosyusì / syuvesì
Fra'u a zup, fäkayä nìmun


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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2014, 04:39:10 pm »
Oo!  Thanks guys,t hat was fast.  Hoof and Horn is my favorite though so as many different versions of that as I can get the happier I will be.  I can't wait to try out what you guys have.

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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2014, 12:33:13 pm »
Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Venzek venusì
Fra'u a terkup, 'ayongokx nìmun
Rina' tsyosyusì / syuvesì
Rina' tsyosyusì / syuvesì
Fra'u a zup, fäkayä nìmun

Not bad, but original rhyme pattern is different:

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Hoof and horn
All that dies shall be reborn

Corn and grain
All that falls shall rise again
Also, I don't think that things can die ;)
My attempt:

Tirea sì tokx
Tirea sì tokx
Tirea sì tokx
Frapo a terkup 'ayongokx
Tìng mikyun
Tìng mikyun
Fra'u a zup kllkxayem nìmun
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2014, 02:40:11 pm »
The Sweeping Chant
Zeya way
Sngum kolä neto, oel ngat ke kin nulkrr,
Sngum kolä neto, ftumfa kelku sì krr.
Sänui sì tìnui, sngum sì tìwäte,
Txìng set, hum, 'almìp ta tìrey oeyä.


Earth my Body
'Rrta oeyä tokx
'Rrta oeyä tokx, pay oeyä reypay,
Ya oeyä syeha ulte txep oeyä tirea.


Standing
Tìkllkxusem
Ayvul oeyä a sloa sì piak.
Kllza'u tompa, kllza'u tsawke,
Kllza'u syuve txe'lanmì a piak lu
Fte kllkxivem na utral.


Untitled
Tstxoluke
Teswotìng tìhawnu
Ulte mì sìhawnu tìtxursì,
Ulte mì sìtxur tìtslamsì,
Ulte mì sìtslam tìomumsì,
Ulte mì sìomum tìmwiäsì,
Ulte mì sìmwiä tìyawnsì,
Ulte mì sìyawn tìyawnsì fraysìfkeytokä,
Ulte mì sìyawn fraysìfkeytokä tìyawnsì 'Rrtayä,
Ulte fratìzuso.

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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2014, 03:00:58 pm »
The Sweeping Chant
Zeya way
Sngum kolä neto, oel ngat ke kin nulkrr,
Sngum kolä neto, ftumfa kelku sì krr.
Sänui sì tìnui, sngum sì tìwäte,
Txìng set, hum, 'almìp ta tìrey oeyä.

Not too much to add :) Just instead of ol/alm I'd use iv - all text is like command or wish.

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Earth my Body
'Rrta oeyä tokx
'Rrta oeyä tokx, pay oeyä reypay,
Ya oeyä syeha ulte txep oeyä tirea.

I'm wondering how to translate this correctly. Original is "packed" text - verbs are omitted, but in Na'vi it looks somehow strange. Though it could work.

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Standing
Tìkllkxusem
Ayvul oeyä lu sloa sì piak.
Kllza'u ma tompa, kllza'u ma tsawke,
Kllza'u syuve txe'lanmì a piak lu
Fte kllkxivem na utral.

Just attempt to improve...
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Untitled
Tstxoluke
Teswotìng tìhawnu
Ulte mì sìhawnu tìtxursì,
Ulte mì sìtxur tìtslamsì,
Ulte mì sìtslam tìomumsì,
Ulte mì sìomum tìmwiäsì,
Ulte mì sìmwiä tìyawnsì,
Ulte mì sìyawn tìyawnsì fraysìfkeytokä,
Ulte mì sìyawn fraysìfkeytokä tìyawnsì 'Rrtayä,
Ulte fratìzuso.

Why both ulte and is used? is enough as it is one long list :)

Teswotìng tìhawnut
sì mì sìhawnu tìtxurit,
sì mì sìtxur tìtslamit,
sì mì sìtslam tìomumit,
sì mì sìomum tìmwiät,
sì mì sìmwiä tìyawnit,
sì mì sìyawn tìyawnit frapoyä,
sì mì sìyawn frapoyä tìyawnit 'Rrtayä,
sì tìtstunwit/fpomit.

Maybe more grammatic would be:
Teswotìng tìhawnut
sì tìtxurit a mì sìhawnu,
sì tìtslamit a mì sìtxur, ....

but I like first version more..... and poetic license allows it ;D
Oe lu skxawng skxakep. Slä oe nerume mi.
"Oe tasyätxaw ulte koren za'u oehu" (Limonádový Joe)


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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2014, 03:12:59 pm »
It was my attempt to translate it to be as near as possible to the original but also to let it to rhyme/read good.

As for that ulte vs , I thought, it would be nice to have a "difference" between the "and-s", and that poetic thing would allow. :) ;) :D

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Standing
Tìkllkxusem
Ayvul oeyä lu sloa sì piak.
Kllza'u ma tompa, kllza'u ma tsawke,
Kllza'u syuve txe'lanmì a piak lu
Fte kllkxivem na utral.
Just attempt to improve...
The original have also no verbs in the first line [context would be the key]. :-\
Interesting idea with ma :)

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Re: Neo-Paganism and Na'vi Combined
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2014, 12:52:17 pm »
You all are the best :D

 

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