Pamrelfya a'Eoio

[agent1022]

Well, I think I'm beginning to understand the general picture of things, but I'm not exactly sure how the extraneous dots note infixes, stress and so on. If anyone could explain to me, in plain Ìnglìsì, the usage of those dots and dashes and so on, that would be awesome.

[MIPP]

As I written yesterday, I'll leave here an clearer example:

[Plumps]

That is more towards Chinese or other character based scripts, isn't it?
The 'problem' I see there is, how would you distinguish this word from *zuyapi or *yazupi or *puzayi etc. ?
I rather think that, if it were to become that idiomatic, a character for the -yu equivalent would be created.

[MIPP]

That is more towards Chinese or other character based scripts, isn't it?
The 'problem' I see there is, how would you distinguish this word from *zuyapi or *yazupi or *puzayi etc. ?
I rather think that, if it were to become that idiomatic, a character for the -yu equivalent would be created.

                             
I'm not sure if you're talking with me, but if you are (about my example above), it has some rules: the direction is always (in 4 letters words):
4th3rd
1st2nd

In other words another order would be created, like in 5 letters word (as pizayu), the 3rd letter is down:
5th4th
1st2nd3rd

But it is always read from the right to left, and then to above and right.

[Jameso]

I dont like it! 

[MIPP]

However, that said, the "stroke order" you're referring to could be relevant for these Na'vi compounded symbols as well, but I don't think it would be for the same reasons. These forms are designed to be appropriate for 'pre-ink' technology applications. They don't have curvilinear forms because those would be harder to carve into hard surfaces or press into clay with a stylus. Stroke order is important for Chinese for the cursive forms of the characters when written with a brush (usually on paper). It keeps the flowing forms more consistent (legible) when written with great speed (as they get more and more curvy).

   

I think the Na'vi might have SPECIAL forms like NA'VI and EYWA as the highly "symbol-ified" forms, but there would not be as many as the Japanese borrowed from the Chinese.

   

If a font is being made, some of these might be justified as being included, but there would be no way to practically support everyone's personal name. Prrton would not make the cut. This name would not exist on Pandora anyway.

   

I'd have to settle for:

   

But, I could certainly write by hand or use it iconographically and anyone could figure out what it was (because it does not use anything that is not alphabetic). That is not the case at all with Chinese characters.

This is far from a "fully baked" deal; especially when it comes to the stacks and compounds.

If Kemaweyan actually is going to figure out how to make a font, we'll likely need to decide (limit) the number of stacks and compounds based on the amount of work he's willing to do. Completing a fully functioning OpenType font is a monumental undertaking; especially one with contextual ligatures.

Basically, my suggestion was that every word should be written as you did for na'vi, Eywa, etc... With the letters all mixed in a single character.

[Kemaweyan]

Ma MIPP, I think you correct understand this writing system, but the word pizayu that you wrote has one mistake. There are no diphthongs, because that is pi.za.yu, not pi.zay.u. So, it should be

[agent1022]

Seriously though, dots and dashes, still confused.

[MIPP]

Ma MIPP, I think you correct understand this writing system, but the word pizayu that you wrote has one mistake. There are no diphthongs, because that is pi.za.yu, not pi.zay.u. So, it should be

Hum... it is something that I didn't care when writing with our normal alphabet. Looks like now I'll have to study harder

Btw, and what do you think about my suggestion?

P.s. I was reading and trying to decipher the text in the images at the 1st page, but there are some things there that aren't in the image with the alphabet  

P.p.s is pizayu piza+yu?

[Ngawng]

Seriously though, dots and dashes, still confused.

Mllte oe....and how are the glyphs grouped together?

[Kemaweyan]

Btw, and what do you think about my suggestion?

I think if mix all words in single character, that will be very difficult to understand And to write.

P.s. I was reading and trying to decipher the text in the images at the 1st page, but there are some things there that aren't in the image with the alphabet  

Such as what?

P.p.s is pizayu piza+yu?

I just thought about that too. I don't know, if it's piza+yu, then piza should be verb. But what could mean this verb?

[Kemaweyan]

Seriously though, dots and dashes, still confused.

Mllte oe....and how are the glyphs grouped together?

You mean how the glyphs grouped together in words like Na'vi, Eywa and ulte?

[Ngawng]

Seriously though, dots and dashes, still confused.

Mllte oe....and how are the glyphs grouped together?

You mean how the glyphs grouped together in words like Na'vi, Eywa and ulte?

Eh well I looked at them again, and I think I understand...I'm still confused about what all the dots and dashes mean...

[Payä Tìrol]

The short dashes on the word's "clothesline" that aren't part of a letter indicate a prefix or suffix.
A single apostrophe-like mark after a word indicates a comma, two indicates a period.
A single dot over a vowel indicates where the word stress is on that word.
Dots under a letter are part of the character.
Two dots over a pair of letters stacked on top of each other indicates a verb infix.
There are also some dots and dashes that indicate the glottal stop character, depending on whether it's in the middle of a word, at the start, or at the end.

That's what I think at least, some details may be off...

[Sireayä mokri]

Btw, and what do you think about my suggestion?

I think if mix all words in single character, that will be very difficult to understand And to write.

I agree, It's just too complicated for me... We can have special symbols for words like Eywa, Na'vi, maybe irayo etc, but I don't think there is any need to create every word by mixing things that way...

[Jameso]

Btw, and what do you think about my suggestion?

I think if mix all words in single character, that will be very difficult to understand And to write.

I agree, It's just too complicated for me... We can have special symbols for words like Eywa, Na'vi, maybe irayo etc, but I don't think there is any need to create every word by mixing things that way...

I AGREE!

[MIPP]

Seriously though, dots and dashes, still confused.

Mllte oe....and how are the glyphs grouped together?

You mean how the glyphs grouped together in words like Na'vi, Eywa and ulte?

I think that Payä Tìrol explained it already
But I found a "r" that is not written with the line |, only the triangle, or whatever it is.

[Kemaweyan]

But I found a "r" that is not written with the line |, only the triangle, or whatever it is.

It's already answered http://forum.learnnavi.org/your-projects-other-resources/pamrelfya-aeoio/msg301644/#msg301644

[MIPP]

But I found a "r" that is not written with the line |, only the triangle, or whatever it is.

It's already answered http://forum.learnnavi.org/your-projects-other-resources/pamrelfya-aeoio/msg301644/#msg301644

Txantsan. Irayo!

[agent1022]

And the tsä with the shorter middle stem...what does lere'o mean?

EDIT: Lenition! Of course! =.= oe lu skxawng...

EDIT EDIT: Wait...that can't be right...

EDIT EDIT EDIT: okay, Tirea explained it to me. -.-