Definition disambiguation

Started by Txonpay, January 18, 2024, 11:26:24 PM

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Toliman

Txantsan, that is good :)

Txonpay

#81
Here is the list of ambiguously or flexibly countable ASG words:
Not applicable:
  • 'Ìnglìsì (English language)
  • Fmawn (news)
  • Taw (sky)
Suspected flexibility:
Used in both ways on Na'viteri:
  • Meuia (honor)*
  • Pam (sound)*
  • Ral (meaning)*
  • Tìkin (need)* (Na'viteri confirmed this)
  • Tìrey (life)*
  • Tskxe (rock)*
  • Txep (fire)*
Other:
  • Tseo (art) (barely on Na'viteri)
  • Tskxekeng (exercise)
  • Txum (poison) (is "kind of poision" the countable one?)
No idea:
  • 'Ok (Remembrance) (only one example sentence)
  • Tsam (war) (all Na'viteri examples seem to be countable?)
  • Txopu (fear) (All examples are in "txopu si" or "txopu sleyku")
  • Wutso (dinner, served meal) (there are examples on Na'viteri, but I still have doubts for its countability)
Not enough context on Na'viteri:
  • Äie (spiritual vision)*
  • Fpeio (ceremonial challenge)*
  • Kìte'e (service)*
  • Telem (cord)* (txurtel (rope) is derived from it, blurring the countability)

If you have any improvements or suggestions, LMK :)
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Toliman


Txonpay

Updates:
  • 'Ìnglìsì (English language), fmawn (news) and taw (sky) are put into a separate N/A list
  • Ral (logical/literal meaning) seems to be used as both countable and uncountable on Na'viteri
  • Tsam (war) seems to just ambiguous or countable contexts (no example is explicity uncountable)
  • Txopu (fear) is only seen as part of txopu si (be scared) or txopu sleyku (frighten)
  • The u/ù list has fnetxum (kind of poision) as a separate word, suggesting txum (poison) is not countable
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Toliman


Txonpay

Given I searched Na'viteri for examples, should I remove the nouns that are used in both countable and uncountable contexts on Na'viteri before sending the list to Pawl? :-\
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Toliman

That is a question, maybe I would send rather all items :)

Txonpay

I could put them in a separate list.  I'll edit my post to show what that would look like :)
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Toliman

Separate list, that is good idea :)

Txonpay

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Toliman


Txonpay

Hmm.  I realized 'Ìnglìsì is listed as a normal noun in Fwew.  Should it be a proper noun? :-\
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Toliman

Hmm, I am not sure but maybe yes :)

Txonpay

We decided it's a good idea to make it a proper noun given Reykunu also does so.

Also, I just emailed Pawl the list of ambiguously countable ASG words (with the new segregation based on how the words show up on Na'viteri) :D :D :D
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Txonpay

#94
And the cloud spreadsheet is updated with the new words :D
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Toliman


Toliman

Quote from: Txonpay on March 25, 2024, 07:32:24 PMWe decided it's a good idea to make it a proper noun given Reykunu also does so.
Yeah, good idea :)

Txonpay

I got an email back from Pawl 2 hours ago! :D He thanked me for the continued maintenance of the language, said he will take a close look at the suggestions as soon as he can, hopefully in the next few days, and he didn't want me to think he was ignoring me.  I told him that if he's busy, I completely understand. :)
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Toliman