Translating Hamlet.

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Quote from: Eyaye Tskxe on January 25, 2010, 11:37:21 PM
We're planning on starting a unit on Hamlet in our Inglísí class later in the year. Would be great to pull this out in the midst of it, ask the teacher if I can use this edition. :P

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Quote from: Tsu'roen on January 26, 2010, 04:14:40 AM
Sorry, not to rain into the parade, but while Hamlet (and other Shakespearean works) fit well into the violent and warmongering ideology and background of Klingon it is as far away from the Na'vi way of life as possible.
Hamlet is all about betrayal, deceive and murder - things that are as foreign to Na'vi as chainsaw and bulldozer!
The Avatar script actually states that the Na'vi had no understanding of the concept of lying nor words for it:
    JAKE: They don't even have a word for "lie" -- they had to learn it from us.
    GRACE: I know. I taught it to them.

So isn't there any other famous work that fits better with the Na'vi way of life than Shakespeare?


I know, it's a shame that Sigourney decided to mention Hamlet (that's the only reason I chose it).

There's also the midsummer night's dream project which certainly fits much better culturally.

Also, thanks for reminding me about lie, if Grace taught them the word then it'll be a borrowed word as lay.

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hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
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Quote from: Tsu'roen on January 26, 2010, 04:14:40 AM
Sorry, not to rain into the parade, but while Hamlet (and other Shakespearean works) fit well into the violent and warmongering ideology and background of Klingon it is as far away from the Na'vi way of life as possible.
Hamlet is all about betrayal, deceive and murder - things that are as foreign to Na'vi as chainsaw and bulldozer!
The Avatar script actually states that the Na'vi had no understanding of the concept of lying nor words for it:
    JAKE: They don't even have a word for "lie" -- they had to learn it from us.
    GRACE: I know. I taught it to them.


So isn't there any other famous work that fits better with the Na'vi way of life than Shakespeare?

Is that from the most recent edition from the script? I haven't read the whole thing yet.
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Yes, it's on page 84 right before Jake's uniltaron. One of the many cut scenes that's really missing for the deeper understanding of the movie. I really hope that it is in the extended version.
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Quote from: Tsu'roen on January 26, 2010, 04:14:40 AM
Sorry, not to rain into the parade, but while Hamlet (and other Shakespearean works) fit well into the violent and warmongering ideology and background of Klingon it is as far away from the Na'vi way of life as possible.
Hamlet is all about betrayal, deceive and murder - things that are as foreign to Na'vi as chainsaw and bulldozer!
The Avatar script actually states that the Na'vi had no understanding of the concept of lying nor words for it:
   JAKE: They don't even have a word for "lie" -- they had to learn it from us.
   GRACE: I know. I taught it to them.

So isn't there any other famous work that fits better with the Na'vi way of life than Shakespeare?

Hehe, besides: everyone knows that the bard actually wrote all of his stuff in its intended Klingon to start with, which later became an English classic. But the Klingons know better. :D
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For us who are working on Hamlet and need simpler, more modern English sentences -> http://nfs.sparknotes.com/hamlet/
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Quote from: Mirri on January 28, 2010, 07:27:28 AM
Oe ayngahu.

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I don't there's that big a trade in selling people's wave addresses yet.  :P

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Internet Acronyms Nìna'vi

hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
http://bit.ly/53GnAB
The translation of Hamlet into Na'vi has started! Join with us at http://bit.ly/53GnAB

txo nga new oehu pivlltxe nìna'vi, nga oer 'eylan si mì fayspuk (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)
If you want to speak na'vi to me, friend me on facebook (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)

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#87
if it's anything i've already almost finished hamlet's soliloquy before even hearing about this. so if thats not done yet i can put that up for people to scrutinize.

oh and can someone explain this google wave thing to me? i want to be part of this!!! Irayo!
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kewnya txamew'itan

Sure thing.

Wave is kind of like a wiki, an email and a forum all in one lump of awesomeness.

We'll try to get an invite to you but we'll need your email address, once you get the invite, post again and we'll add you to the translation wave(s) and you should have an explanatory wave in your inbox already with a short(ish) video explaining it, be grateful you don't have to watch the 80 minute video like I did.
Internet Acronyms Nìna'vi

hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
http://bit.ly/53GnAB
The translation of Hamlet into Na'vi has started! Join with us at http://bit.ly/53GnAB

txo nga new oehu pivlltxe nìna'vi, nga oer 'eylan si mì fayspuk (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)
If you want to speak na'vi to me, friend me on facebook (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)

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T'o ngal "gmail account"it kìn. Poru [email protected] syaw.

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Kìrìstìyä tìpe'unri a kifkeyit kelor kawngsì tsere'a, tsafpìlfya kifkeyit tsafya txolängula.

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Invitation sent.
Post your wave address here when you get it...

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sorry for being a super noob but what is my wave address?
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kewnya txamew'itan

Either you choose to use your gmail account or make a new one.

If you choose to use your gmail it'll be the same except ending in "@googlewave.com" instead of "@gmail.com".
Internet Acronyms Nìna'vi

hamletä tìralpuseng lena'vi sngolä'eiyi. tìkangkem si awngahu ro
http://bit.ly/53GnAB
The translation of Hamlet into Na'vi has started! Join with us at http://bit.ly/53GnAB

txo nga new oehu pivlltxe nìna'vi, nga oer 'eylan si mì fayspuk (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)
If you want to speak na'vi to me, friend me on facebook (http://bit.ly/bp9fwf)

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well in that case i used my gmail account. Irayo!
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I don't know how much I can help with translating, but could you please invite me to Hamlet's Wave ;)?

my address is "konieckropka"  of course at ;] googlewave.com  THX

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sent! I hope i have the authority to do so i didn't even think to ask.
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DW. that is ok, we all get notified by wave when someone is added anyway.

judytuna

Could I snag an invite to the wave, too? I'm judytuna  at googlewave. =)

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I don't have wave.. applied but nothing has happened yet.

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