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Offline Key'ìl Nekxetse

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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2011, 03:00:11 pm »
I may be practicing necromancy, but I want to see if anyone can help me with this.
I've tried the alveolar trill quite a few times, and I think I understand how it should work. With enough force I can just about get my tongue to vibrate in around the place it should, but it takes so much moving air that it sounds more like a balloon deflating! :-[
Am I doing it completely wrong or should I try and practice it more?
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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2011, 08:32:55 pm »
I started out doing it in my through but switched to using my tongue without trouble. Maybe you just just need to practice to fine tune it and get it 
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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2011, 08:42:43 pm »
Now that you've got the basic idea, it's time to start relaxing your tongue 8)  You should be able to make the trill on even what seems like the amount of breath you'd use for a good sigh (and about that speed, too)

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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2011, 10:52:49 pm »
Now that you've got the basic idea, it's time to start relaxing your tongue 8)  You should be able to make the trill on even what seems like the amount of breath you'd use for a good sigh (and about that speed, too)

Practice makes perfect!

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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2011, 10:29:21 am »
Now that you've got the basic idea, it's time to start relaxing your tongue 8)  You should be able to make the trill on even what seems like the amount of breath you'd use for a good sigh (and about that speed, too)

Practice makes perfect!
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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2012, 10:50:09 am »
Take a sip of water, hold it at your throat, and pronounce /h/
this is what i did when i was learning German.

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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2012, 07:04:55 pm »
Has anyone tried doing the trill part while whistling? It makes the whistle sound cool
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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2012, 07:57:22 pm »
 Here goes Niri Te being "different". Ateyo and I tried to get me to do the trilled R, for months with no luck at all. I can pronounce German "R's" perfectly, but not the trilled Na'vi "RR". It is not because of the shape of my mouth, I used to be able to do it all the time, but that was before the neurological damage from the multiple skull fractures and Coma.
 What i eventually wound up doing is trilling with a combination of the back of my tongue and the uvula. Ateyo "tested me, first by just listening tome do the Prr, Trr, and Krr sounds, and then she started giving me sentences that had string of the words in them, and she says that I can say them as quickly as she can by trilling the normal way. When I do it, I sound kind of like a cat purring.
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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2012, 12:17:56 pm »
Can't count how many times I've seen this topic HRH...

Its quite a popular question, as many are like you. I heard that 1 in 4000[?] have a mouth shape that makes it impossible physically. On the other hand, I have heard stories of people going from not at all able to do it to practicing and eventually being able to do it. Describing it is difficult. Main point is that the air flow causes rapid flapping vibration of the front end of the tongue from a relaxed state in the front of the mouth, right behind the teeth.

One in 4000? That's ankyloglots (tongue-tied people) for you.

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Re: Trilled rr's
« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2012, 10:32:22 am »
Take a sip of water, hold it at your throat, and pronounce /h/
this is what i did when i was learning German.
That's the German uvular R, not the Na'vi alveolar RR.

Frankly speaking, although I speak Na'vi almost fluently, I STILL cannot manage to pronounce "RR" though I have zero trouble with all the other sounds, including the tapped single R. For example, I'd say "pìrìrìnen" instead of "prrnen" ;D
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