Glottal stop and "ll"

Started by Abraleth, December 25, 2009, 09:47:53 PM

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Abraleth

Is the glottal stop merely a pause within a word, or is there more to it than that?

Also, how exactly is the double-L pronounced? The word "table", as it says in the guide, sounds like only one L to me.
Ngal Na'viti plltxe tsun srak?
Ngari si nìwoti neu, slä sngä'ike tì'ekoti ne tuteri alahe tìrey fu aytsat amuiä.

wm.annis

Quote from: Abraleth on December 25, 2009, 09:47:53 PM
Is the glottal stop merely a pause within a word, or is there more to it than that?

It's not just a pause, it's a closing of the glottis in your throat.  My fave example is the sound that occurs between the "uh" and the "oh" of "uh-oh."  If we spelled English like Na'vi (ignore the vowel sound mismatch) it'd be: 'uh'oh.

QuoteAlso, how exactly is the double-L pronounced? The word "table", as it says in the guide, sounds like only one L to me.

Well ll isn't really supposed to sound like two Ls, but it's written that way to clue you in to the fact it's acting like a vowel here, not a consonant.

Is.

I was also wondering about the "ll".

There's prrtxe for "to speak" and then there's also plltxe. So is ll just another way to write out "rr"? Or what's going on here?

wm.annis

Quote from: Is. on December 26, 2009, 01:25:12 PMThere's prrtxe for "to speak" and then there's also plltxe. So is ll just another way to write out "rr"? Or what's going on here?

Ooh, be careful with the spelling.  plltxe speak vs. prrte' pleasure (probably).

The ll is different.  If we spelled English like we spell Na'vi the word "people" would be: pipll.  Does that make sense?

Is.

Quote from: wm.annis on December 27, 2009, 02:09:40 PM
Quote from: Is. on December 26, 2009, 01:25:12 PMThere's prrtxe for "to speak" and then there's also plltxe. So is ll just another way to write out "rr"? Or what's going on here?
The ll is different.  If we spelled English like we spell Na'vi the word "people" would be: pipll.  Does that make sense?

Oh, I see! Thanks alot for these clarifications.

txum tukru

whats the point of the glottal stop at the begging of the word? how would u say it differently?
pesu nga?          "who are you?"
Oe lu toktor.       "the Doctor!"
pesu?                "who?"
nì'aw, toktor.       "just, the Doctor!"

omängum fra'uti

You start with a closed glottis when you say the word, then open right into the first letter.  When you're speaking normally, it also becomes a glottal stop between words, rather than the words flowing smoothly together.
Ftxey lu nga tokx ftxey lu nga tirea? Lu oe tìkeftxo.
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