how do you pronounce the ' at the beginning of a word?

Started by Bozemoto, January 15, 2010, 07:46:43 AM

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Bozemoto


Hawnuyu atxen

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Kaltxì, see this for pronouncing words (hail to Taronyu).
http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/%28for-beginners%29-links-to-useful-documents/90/

Anyway, if i'm right you just have to push the "a" a little.
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Bozemoto

I know how to say it when its in a word. But i cant find anything solid on how to say it when it's in the beginning

Hawnuyu atxen

I think it's the same, so you have to push the first letter after the apostrophe.
"Hrrap rä'ä si olo'ur smuktuä." ; "Ke'u ke lu ngay. Frakemit tung." (Assassin's Creed)

Nikre tsa'usìn!

Tengfya swizaw

As far as I know, the only real time that the ' is stressed if it's at the beginning of a word is in relation to other words. So if you said 'eveng alone, for example, you wouldn't really hear much of the ' except for maybe a little hitch in saying it at the beginning. If you used it in a sentence/phrase, for example Oeyä 'eveng (my child) instead of pronouncing the sentence as fluidly as possible, you would pronounce it with more of a break between Oeyä and 'eveng.


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Taronyu

It's not really stressed. But it is included in every instance, and it is important to have it at the start of words.

Make a [p] sound. You can clearly notice the noise, but it is just pressure built up, and then released. This is linguistically called a stop.

The glottal stop works the same. You're closing your glottis, building up pressure (albeit not as much), and then releasing it all at once. There is a sound there, and it can be heard, even word initially.


jeremyb

Sorry if I'm resurrecting a dead topic, but I'm having trouble with this. If I take a word that has an ' and remove everything that comes before it, the remainder is roughly what I'm aiming for when saying a word that has ' at the beginning, is that right?

AyekongAyauyä

Kind of. Actually, at least some English dialects begin ostensibly vowel-initial words with a slight glottal stop anyway, so it can be difficult to make the distinction. The best way I know of to learn the word-initial glottal stop is to repeat "uh-oh" over and over again -- both syllables start with one.

jeremyb

Quote from: AyekongAyauyä on February 05, 2010, 12:00:02 PM
The best way I know of to learn the word-initial glottal stop is to repeat "uh-oh" over and over again -- both syllables start with one.

So they do. That's interesting.

Taronyu

It's important for people to know that it really isn't done at the end of words, because stops aren't released. Say cat - but keep your tongue on the t, instead of letting it go, and then just gently stop touching the alveolar ridge (top of your mouth). There isn't really a /t/ sound. That is what should happen with the glottal stop, word finally.