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Offline Txonä Tìranyu

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I cant roll my R's
« on: October 05, 2011, 07:00:31 pm »
Its not that I dont know how, its I dont think it is physically possible for me to roll my R's, ive watched every youtube tutorial i could find, ive tried practicing for hours and never any success.  >:(

how important is it to roll your R's? I know in spanish you sound like a tard if you dont, is it the same in Na'vi?

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2011, 07:03:31 pm »
i think its pretty important b/c something like "krr" not rolled wouldnt sound right and someone might not even know what it is... just keep practicing someone said about singing along with rammstein and that helped with me to get the rolled r


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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2011, 09:16:43 pm »
Trilled rrs are definitely important!  ;D Advice? Practise rapid tongue movement practise, practise, practise. I don't know... Just walk around busting out the ol' prrkxentrrkrr whenever you can.


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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2011, 09:34:46 pm »
There are countless threads on this by now. :P Have you checked around?

Anywho, I wish I knew how to explain the alveolar trill in such a routine way that anyone can be guaranteed to lean to do it right then and there, but alas I have yet do discover this method...

All I can say is I wish the best to you, and I do hear stories every so often of how people who could not do this now can due to practice. :D

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2011, 10:08:26 pm »
Maybe somebody should sticky the thread where I gave a really exacting physical explanation that seems to work for people?

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2011, 10:14:08 pm »
Maybe somebody should sticky the thread where I gave a really exacting physical explanation that seems to work for people?

yeah, that thread needs a sticky cuz the topic keeps coming up like every 2-3 months...

EDIT: I just found two links on this exact subject.

http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/speech-problem/

Sometimes the answer to your question may be found in a subforum.:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/pronunciation-phonetics/trilled-rrs/
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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2011, 10:29:15 pm »
The second topic you linked to is the one I was thinking of...maybe I should just re-write it and we can sticky it somewhere?

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2011, 10:30:28 pm »
sure...

but there are a LOT of sticky posts in /beginners, /intermediate, and their child boards... hmmmmm

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2011, 08:59:12 pm »
I can't roll my rs either but my spanish teacher said keep your mouth open when you say the r. It doesn't help me roll it but it does draw it out a bit so I guess I just have to keep practicing. :-\

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2011, 10:32:12 pm »
sure...

but there are a LOT of sticky posts in /beginners, /intermediate, and their child boards... hmmmmm
well logically they should since they are where people need the most help.  maybe you can create a special board for topics like this.
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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2011, 10:37:33 pm »
sure...

but there are a LOT of sticky posts in /beginners, /intermediate, and their child boards... hmmmmm
well logically they should since they are where people need the most help.  maybe you can create a special board for topics like this.

I once created this old thread in hopes it would get stickied.  That subforum has a sticky about the Na'vi R but not RR.



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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2011, 05:07:05 am »
I can't roll my rs either but my spanish teacher said keep your mouth open when you say the r. It doesn't help me roll it but it does draw it out a bit so I guess I just have to keep practicing. :-\

Oh, I just tried this because I was also having difficulties rolling the R's and it worked. Thank you for posting your teacher's advice for others to see!

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2011, 07:50:19 am »
Your welcome. I'll have to tell her she helped someone that has problems with a language that she probably doesn't even know about. ;D

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2011, 10:32:17 am »
Maybe my exercise will also help, I'll repost it in here for you for now 8)

Here's an exercise for you.  First, let your mouth relax open and let out a strong breath "Huhhhhh"

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Now open your mouth and make the motion for an "L".  Slide the tip of your tongue back a bit until it moves from the back of the teeth onto the hard palate.  Feel the shape of the inside of your mouth, make yourself aware of what the position of your tongue, jaws and cheeks feels like.

Now repeat the first exercise, but instead of just letting your tongue rest in the bottom of your mouth, bring the tip up toward that place on the hard palate.  You need to make it quite a forceful breath for this to work, but when your tongue is most of the way up but BEFORE IT TOUCHES THE PALATE you should begin to feel/hear it vibrate.

Practice, practice, practice!!!

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2011, 10:58:36 am »
Maybe my exercise will also help, I'll repost it in here for you for now 8)

Here's an exercise for you.  First, let your mouth relax open and let out a strong breath "Huhhhhh"

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Now open your mouth and make the motion for an "L".  Slide the tip of your tongue back a bit until it moves from the back of the teeth onto the hard palate.  Feel the shape of the inside of your mouth, make yourself aware of what the position of your tongue, jaws and cheeks feels like.

Now repeat the first exercise, but instead of just letting your tongue rest in the bottom of your mouth, bring the tip up toward that place on the hard palate.  You need to make it quite a forceful breath for this to work, but when your tongue is most of the way up but BEFORE IT TOUCHES THE PALATE you should begin to feel/hear it vibrate.

Practice, practice, practice!!!

Wow so far that was the most helpfull thing I have read yet! another place that has been extreamly helpfull for me is http://www.wikihow.com/Roll-Your-%22R%22s

Thanks all for the help :D
« Last Edit: October 08, 2011, 11:01:42 am by Letxona Tìranyu »

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2011, 06:40:56 pm »
sorry for the double post, but after many toung excercises  :P and many times saying "Practice" with a 'd' in front of the 'r' I finally got it, first I was like  :-X then  :o then Heck Yeah!  >:( then  :D . lol I still practice all the time for fear of losing it.

Againg thanks for all the help.

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2011, 06:46:55 pm »
It's awesome to hear of another case where practice can actually work for this.

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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2011, 01:34:59 am »
I've decided I'm going to come up with a list of excerises during the summer that one can do to help with pronunciation. Especially trilled rrs.


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Re: I cant roll my R's
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2011, 10:25:42 am »
sorry for the double post, but after many toung excercises  :P and many times saying "Practice" with a 'd' in front of the 'r' I finally got it, first I was like  :-X then  :o then Heck Yeah!  >:( then  :D . lol I still practice all the time for fear of losing it.

Againg thanks for all the help.
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