I have no "krr."

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Tìrol'ite

I'm confused.  Is it an alveolar trill or a uvular trill?

wm.annis

Quote from: Tìrol'ite on January 30, 2010, 09:18:15 AM
I'm confused.  Is it an alveolar trill or a uvular trill?

Alveolar.

I spent a few days thinking it was uvular (sound quality in the NYT recording).  I was disappointed when they turned out to be alveolar.  Hrrap, danger, has a nice edge to it with the uvular trill.

Tìrol'ite

Quote from: wm.annis on January 30, 2010, 09:29:04 AM
Alveolar.

I spent a few days thinking it was uvular (sound quality in the NYT recording).  I was disappointed when they turned out to be alveolar.  Hrrap, danger, has a nice edge to it with the uvular trill.

Oooh.  I tried it with the uvular trill just now and I got chills down my spine.  What a shame.

Swoka Swizaw

Quote from: Tìrol'ite on January 30, 2010, 09:45:15 AM
Quote from: wm.annis on January 30, 2010, 09:29:04 AM
Alveolar.

I spent a few days thinking it was uvular (sound quality in the NYT recording).  I was disappointed when they turned out to be alveolar.  Hrrap, danger, has a nice edge to it with the uvular trill.

Oooh.  I tried it with the uvular trill just now and I got chills down my spine.  What a shame.

God, I sound like a damn bullfrog. Curse you, Frommer, and you're aesthetically worthy phonology! :)

AyekongAyauyä

Quote from: Erimeyz on January 24, 2010, 09:46:01 PMFor trilling in general, the best collection of suggestions seems to be this wikiHow page.

Oh my god, I love you for linking this. It's been almost 8 years since I started learning Spanish, and I've still never had a good alveolar trill...and then I just tried that "vision dream" thing for a couple minutes, and I suddenly did it. ;D I'm kind of ecstatic. I still don't have it down consistently, but it shouldn't be long.

Nìwotxkrr Tìyawn

Quote from: Swoka Swizaw on January 30, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
God, I sound like a damn bullfrog. Curse you, Frommer, and you're aesthetically worthy phonology! :)

Blasphemer! Attack him! (>*o*)>--/=======>(>O.o)>
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Swoka Swizaw

Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawntsaheylu on February 01, 2010, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Swoka Swizaw on January 30, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
God, I sound like a damn bullfrog. Curse you, Frommer, and you're aesthetically worthy phonology! :)

Blasphemer! Attack him! (>*o*)>--/=======>(>O.o)>

Tewti, flolä ngeyä tì'eko aftxavang. Tolerkup oe. :P

I, very much, respect karyu-Frome. I was just cursing his linguistic tenacity.

Meuia te Stxeli Tstew'itan

I too cannot make that sound. Maybe some day, with a lot of practice, I'll manage it :P I don't have a clue why but it is the only Na'vi sound that give me a hard time.
Fìtsenge kifkey nìswey livu txo ayoe nìNa'vi perlltxeie. Ngal 'awstengyem olo'it fpi tskxekeng.

Kxawm

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+1 for this difficulty, too.

I also agree with doing your best with pronunciation and making the language your own, even if you do have an "accent". That's what people do in the real world. My trill for the "krr" sound is pretty lame, but my French trill is very good. Nonetheless, I've been living in France for the past 18 years and people still ask me where I'm from because of my accent! They say it's "charming". So what do I do? I have to work everyday and interact with the natives, so I just keep on keeping on. Things have worked out pretty well and I'm having fun with my adopted language, accent and all.  

Meuia te Stxeli Tstew'itan

I'm starting to trill it correctly now. It sounds beautiful from time to time.

+1 for Kxawm. Accent is what define you. Try your best to pronounce it correctly but a little bit of your naive accent isn't bad ;)
Fìtsenge kifkey nìswey livu txo ayoe nìNa'vi perlltxeie. Ngal 'awstengyem olo'it fpi tskxekeng.

tawway

Quote from: Swoka Swizaw on February 01, 2010, 05:07:12 PM
Quote from: Nìwotxkrr Tìyawntsaheylu on February 01, 2010, 03:55:08 PM
Quote from: Swoka Swizaw on January 30, 2010, 10:45:52 AM
God, I sound like a damn bullfrog. Curse you, Frommer, and you're aesthetically worthy phonology! :)

Blasphemer! Attack him! (>*o*)>--/=======>(>O.o)>

Tewti, flolä ngeyä tì'eko aftxavang. Tolerkup oe. :P

I, very much, respect karyu-Frome. I was just cursing his linguistic tenacity.


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