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Offline Txonä Tìranyu

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I just noticed
« on: January 06, 2012, 06:52:56 pm »
It has been recently bothering me that I dont know the difference between ew and ey, the english sound eexamples both sound exactly the same "heyo" for ew and say for ey, as far as my knowlege goes the english sounds of "ey" and "ay" are the same, I keep thinking the "o" at hte end of "heyo" has something to do with it but cant think of anything that makes sence.

also what sound does ll in contrast to l?

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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 07:14:36 pm »
That imo is a #fail found in the book of NiaN chapter 1.

ew, as described by Ftiafpi in one of his YouTube videos, is (imo best) described as:

Edward

Literally, a short e (as in "met") followed by a w. (but no extra sounds or syllables after that)

in Na'vi, ey *IS* the *ENGLISH* ay (if anything, it matches exactly to the English word "Hey!")

in Na'vi, ay is phonetically equivalent (more or less) to the *ENGLISH* word written "eye".

ll to me just sounds like using L as a vowel sound instead of a consonant. but I have heard that it sounds "lighter"(whatever that means)

EDIT: edited this post a LOT of times for clarity
« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 07:22:05 pm by Tirea Aean »

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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 07:12:31 am »
ll to me just sounds like using L as a vowel sound instead of a consonant. but I have heard that it sounds "lighter"(whatever that means)
Correct. It is pronouced a little longer and lighter (softer).
Good word for practice is plltxe versus poltxe.
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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 01:22:49 pm »
The pronunciation of ew changed :o I guess I didn't get the memo  :-\
they killed the [you] tag

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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 01:28:42 pm »
I also just recently learned this.
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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 02:02:19 pm »
The pronunciation of ew changed :o I guess I didn't get the memo  :-\
How it changed? Do you have a source?
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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 03:05:24 pm »
! Really? :o

it has never changed!

it has been that way since the beginning. its just NiaN example was so BAD

HRH
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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 03:38:13 pm »
Really? :o ;D
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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2012, 11:25:49 pm »
Srane nìngay.  I've had a long-standing desire to change that, and also the phonetics page on the main site.

ll to me just sounds like using L as a vowel sound instead of a consonant. but I have heard that it sounds "lighter"(whatever that means)
Correct. It is pronouced a little longer and lighter (softer).
Good word for practice is plltxe versus poltxe.

In Na'vi L and LL are equally light.  They're not the "dark L" sound you frequently find in English.  You'll get the idea if you listen to some romance languages, for example.  The real difference is that LL is a little longer than L and that it has no real vowel quality to it.....

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Re: I just noticed
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 01:23:22 pm »
Srane nìngay.  I've had a long-standing desire to change that, and also the phonetics page on the main site.

ll to me just sounds like using L as a vowel sound instead of a consonant. but I have heard that it sounds "lighter"(whatever that means)
Correct. It is pronouced a little longer and lighter (softer).
Good word for practice is plltxe versus poltxe.

In Na'vi L and LL are equally light.  They're not the "dark L" sound you frequently find in English.  You'll get the idea if you listen to some romance languages, for example.  The real difference is that LL is a little longer than L and that it has no real vowel quality to it.....


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