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Offline SyenMakto

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Linguistics lingo
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:43:59 pm »
im reallyyy new to this so maybe it's just my lack of experience with linguistics, but i dont understand a lot of the terms used here :( for example: glottal stop, ejective, and dipthong. Any help or links to good resources would be extremely helpful. Thanks :D
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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2014, 01:59:33 pm »
Hey, wellcome!

Don't worry about it, we are here to help. :)

glottal stop = ' This is like a short stop as in "uh-oh" - "uh'oh"
ejective = px, kx, tx
Here are some sound samples:
kx - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Velar_ejective_plosive.ogg
tx - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/Alveolar_ejective_plosive.ogg
px - http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/64/Bilabial_ejective_plosive.ogg

dipthong =
aw = aou - "noun"
ay = eye - "eye"
ew = Eh-w - "heyo"
ey = aey - "say"

Here you can find a lots of useful stuff:
[For Beginners] Links to useful learning materials - II
Also this thread is very useful:
Appeal to everyone who begins to study Na'vi

If you have more questions, fell free to ask. :)

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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2014, 02:00:33 pm »
I recall there being something called "Crash course in linguistics" on the main site...
Also, google/Wikipedia is your friend.

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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2014, 02:11:44 pm »

Lì’fyari leNa’vi ’Rrtamì, vay set ’almong a fra’u zera’u ta ngrrpongu
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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2014, 02:30:28 pm »
Ftiafpi's explanation of glottal stop and ejectives.
Evang should be eveng, but otherwise it's rock solid.


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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2014, 02:32:42 pm »
Here is also a pronounciation guide:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/audio/navi-pronunciation-guides/
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Audio board is interesting too:
http://forum.learnnavi.org/audio/
« Last Edit: April 23, 2014, 02:37:39 pm by Tìtstewan »

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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2014, 10:24:48 pm »
http://tirea.learnnavi.org

cool place to learn some grammar without ANY linguistic jargon.

For pronunciation, totally check this out:

http://tirea.learnnavi.org/posts/2013-03-23-sounds.html

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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2014, 06:26:51 am »
ew = Eh-w - "heyo"

I was never really satisfied with that example.

How about the /eo(w)/ in “Beowulf” ?

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Re: Linguistics lingo
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2014, 07:18:22 am »
ew = Eh-w - "heyo"

I was never really satisfied with that example.

How about the /eo(w)/ in “Beowulf” ?


Better. It also depends on your accent how you say this. I've heard people say Bey-yo-wulf here. In which case it's the same as the heyo example.

I'll say this. Every Na'vi word which ends in ew used to end in eu.

neu, sreu, fkeu. For example. They are now spelled as new, srew, fkew. Therefore I've always thought of ew as a combination of ehh and uu one into the other smoothly and quickly, as 1 unit. If that makes any sense.

I've found that ew is just one of those things that if you are learning through text only, needs so much explanation. But if you learn by audio or in person verbally, it takes seconds, just like every other sound. (probably except 'rr)

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