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Pronouncing that tricky R - The Alveolar flap

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Lalexseth:
Basically the same as in Japanese. The 'r' comes as more of an 'L' but not quite an 'L'.

If it helps anyone... try to say 'L' and 'T' right on top of eachother. Not quite either... but still both XP

Okay maybe that didn't help so much but basically like japanese 'R'

Ptxèrra:
velly tlicky but hey to me it works,
but the sound files make it easy to pronounce since you hear what they say and how they say.

and guys keep up the good work, learn your na'vi well.

Seze:
Can some of you phonetical experts verify this?  Someone was asking about the /r/ sound in a different thread and I just wanted to make sure my reply was along the right lines for the /r/ sound.

I had to completely get away from think /r/ is an r, its not.  Whenever I see an /r/ now, I break the word down around the /r/ sound.  Lets take "nari" for example, its "na" + /r/ + "i".  What the /r/ is telling us is that we need to perform an alveolar tap between the "a" and "i".  The tap is nothing more than tapping your tongue on the alveolar ridge while transitioning from the "a" to the "i".  Depending on what your transitioning between, the /r/ may sound like anything from an "d" (nari) to an "l" (ikran) to a mix of "d" and "r" together (toruk).

Txur’Itan:

--- Quote from: Lalexseth on December 22, 2009, 11:04:39 pm ---Basically the same as in Japanese. The 'r' comes as more of an 'L' but not quite an 'L'.

If it helps anyone... try to say 'L' and 'T' right on top of eachother. Not quite either... but still both XP

Okay maybe that didn't help so much but basically like japanese 'R'

--- End quote ---

I agree.  That was the sound construct implied in that word.

wisnij:
It's kind of ironic... I spent a lot of time in my college Japanese courses learning to pronounce that tapped r properly.  Now that I can do it I'm having the opposite problem with Na'vi: sometimes I'll say /ɾ/ when I mean /l/!  It's like my brain has a single "foreign languages" zone, and in that zone /l/ sounds wrong.  -_-

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