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Pronouncing that tricky R - The Alveolar flap

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Skxawng:
This topic is for pronouncing R, surprisingly

I have to go to dinner, so if someone would kindly consolidate the information here, or write a description, I'll edit it into the first post and give you credit when I get back on later.



So far, the closest english word that uses it is 'Butter'

Best to remember the scene where Neytiri is saying 'Nari' to Jake, and bops him on the head

Tiri:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/2l74jq mp3 of Neytiri telling Jake "Nari". 17KB.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/eldwok Extended clip with second pronunciation of "Nari". 71KB.

Seze:
Just want to make sure I really am getting a handle on the r flap, the word ikran, is seperated out as ik-ran due to stop + liquid (- is syllable break). The pronunciation of ikran, does the r almost have an English l sound to it (iklan)?  It sorta sounds that way when Neytiri says it.  Am I on the right track with this?

Tiri:

--- Quote from: Seze on December 22, 2009, 08:50:19 pm ---Just want to make sure I really am getting a handle on the r flap, the word ikran, is seperated out as ik-ran due to stop + liquid (- is syllable break). The pronunciation of ikran, does the r almost have an English l sound to it (iklan)?  It sorta sounds that way when Neytiri says it.  Am I on the right track with this?

--- End quote ---

Just for reference: Neytiri saying ikran word, and then a full sentence including ikran. http://www.sendspace.com/file/v0e6al 164KB

Seze:

--- Quote from: Tiri on December 22, 2009, 09:06:25 pm ---
--- Quote from: Seze on December 22, 2009, 08:50:19 pm ---Just want to make sure I really am getting a handle on the r flap, the word ikran, is seperated out as ik-ran due to stop + liquid (- is syllable break). The pronunciation of ikran, does the r almost have an English l sound to it (iklan)?  It sorta sounds that way when Neytiri says it.  Am I on the right track with this?

--- End quote ---

Just for reference: Neytiri saying ikran word, and then a full sentence including ikran. http://www.sendspace.com/file/v0e6al 164KB

--- End quote ---

This first time I hear ikran, it sounds more like an English r, but the second time, it sounds more like an l.  Are my ears broke?  Which version would be the more correct one?

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