Saying oel ngati kameie

Started by Wll, June 04, 2010, 06:53:24 AM

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Wll

Kaltxì,
Can somebody please tell me how to pronounce Oel ngati kameie? It means I see you, a common greeting, but I can't find the pronunciaton. Please help.
Irayo,
Rey mì fpom
Ikran Ayunil mì apxa kelutrel
Merry Merry King Ik po

bommel

Although it's my 4th day, I'll give it a try :)

I try to pronounce the "oel" like "well" without the "w". It don't know the correct term for this kind of sound but the "oe" isn't spoken as "o-e", it's combined fluenty. And it shouldn't sound like "oh-ell".

The "ngati" is quite tricky for me. It's "ng-ati" where the ng sounds like in "sing" (English word!). It's not "ng-gati" (like I've done it a million times).

Have a look at my thread (I opened it in the wrong category, sorry for that!), kemeoauinaea has posted a nice audio example!
http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/help-on-oel-and-r-needed/msg224863/#msg224863

Eywa ngahu

Muzer

Quote from: bommel on June 04, 2010, 07:05:33 AM
Although it's my 4th day, I'll give it a try :)

I try to pronounce the "oel" like "well" without the "w". It don't know the correct term for this kind of sound but the "oe" isn't spoken as "o-e", it's combined fluenty. And it shouldn't sound like "oh-ell".

It CAN be pronounced as "oe", but only when you're being very formal - most of the time it's fluid as you said. Also, it's always pronounced as "o-e" when there is no ending - so oe always has two syllables but oel normally only has 1. Finally, I actually pronounce it exactly like "well", without missing the 'w' - maybe you normally pronounce the 'w' more strongly than I do? My 'well' sounds exactly like the 'oel' from the film. Here is the Na'vi in a Nutshell extract relating to this:

Quote from: NeotrekkerZPronunciation Note: When oe is by itself or at the end of a word (e.g. moe), each vowel is
pronounced individually; when it has an ending (oeyä, oel, oeti, oeru) or occurs in the
middle of a word the vowels are pronounced as "we" in wept, went, or wed. Finally, in the
dual and trial forms, regardless of whether there's an ending, the vowels are pronounced
individually. So, oe has two syllables, oel has one syllable, pxoe has two syllables and pxoel
also has two syllables. If you hear someone pronounce oeru as "ohehroo" instead of
"wehru," they are speaking formally.

QuoteThe "ngati" is quite tricky for me. It's "ng-ati" where the ng sounds like in "sing" (English word!). It's not "ng-gati" (like I've done it a million times).

Right.

QuoteHave a look at my thread (I opened it in the wrong category, sorry for that!), kemeoauinaea has posted a nice audio example!
http://forum.learnnavi.org/beginners/help-on-oel-and-r-needed/msg224863/#msg224863

Eywa ngahu
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bommel

Wooow! I'd got things right :)

Anyway, if you're in doubt just record an audio example and post it. Skilled people will have a look at it. As Jake said in the movie, learning this langauge can be a pain. "It's like field stripping a gun. Repetition, repetition."

Eywa ngahu

Wll

Thanks a load! I'm going to say that to everyone now (look out North-west, I'm coming  ;D)
Eywa ngahu
Ikran Ayunil mì apxa kelutrel
Merry Merry King Ik po

bommel

Yeah, do that my friend! 'Ivong Na'vi!