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Offline Tsmuktengan

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2012, 08:30:18 am »
Interesting. I'll add this to the site as soon as I have a minute.


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2012, 05:49:08 am »
would it be such a bad idea to JOIN the blue moon tribe people, at least until a community is set up?
once everything is stable, the two groups can split/seperate, but due to small number of people, this might not be such a bad idea?

don't know...will look up more about them, just thought it might be worth mentioning

irayo :)

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2012, 04:57:54 pm »
would it be such a bad idea to JOIN the blue moon tribe people, at least until a community is set up?
once everything is stable, the two groups can split/seperate, but due to small number of people, this might not be such a bad idea?

don't know...will look up more about them, just thought it might be worth mentioning

irayo :)

Considering that I am the only one to give a direction to the project and that I can be very busy from time to time, it isn't necessarily a bad thing, since even some members here look at what is going on there.


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2012, 10:12:55 am »
sorry... I'm not quite sure what you mean?

 :-[

I just thought, all pulling together might be easier?

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2012, 07:32:32 pm »
Well, I have no idea on which way blue moon is going. But I thought it would be interesting to see how the two groups evolve before eventually melting them into one group, as an experiment.

I am the one who maintains http://na.learnnavi.org/real-navi/ but as I am a computer science student heading towards a master degree, I can be taken a lot by time. As I am relearning to rest and cool down, I will perhaps finally find the time to write this second blog post where I precisely say what kind of land we've been looking for and what should make us decide, but I'll also suggest how we can now hit the earth and acquire some knowledge.

I have been increasingly stressed out by my work and I will need complete change to fully recover in some way, even for a short time. At the same time, I want how to live with very few resources in nature, but have no idea where to find this in Europe. As I said in a previous post, I look for an equivalent to this that offers outdoor camps and programs in nature in the US with certified people, also for adults. I guess it is better to have first experiences even before going forward. Then we could have more clues to choose our land if one or more of us have already experienced this sort of thing even for a few days.

At this point I do not know what going with Blue Moon would offer more for this group, for instance. However, you can of course have a look to what is happening there, I am sure they are more advanced in terms or organization than Project Tribal is. :)


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #25 on: July 30, 2012, 10:48:57 am »
oh okay, that makes sense.
Thanks :)

and I hope you do well with your studies xx

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #26 on: July 30, 2012, 07:58:34 pm »
oh okay, that makes sense.
Thanks :)

and I hope you do well with your studies xx

I do well : I've finally validated my second year and will be able to start my third year in exactly one month. I've got one month of freedom.  :)


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2012, 10:26:12 am »
yay :D

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I am leaving RLNT
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2012, 06:34:27 am »
I don't see that this project will get any longer, and that's the reason that I am now signing out of RLNT
I will be glad to help you all with this project, but I will not go out in the nature and do this


Sorry, that I can't do this anymore
hope you all understand me

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #29 on: August 19, 2012, 08:35:15 am »
You are writing this while I am on the way back to home. I told you I could update anything since a long time up until I could get back my computer and passwords. I told that already numerous times.

You were actually very motivated. What has happened?

This is pretty frustrating. I have almost arrived. Never mind...
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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #30 on: August 19, 2012, 11:44:35 am »
You are writing this while I am on the way back to home. I told you I could update anything since a long time up until I could get back my computer and passwords. I told that already numerous times.

You were actually very motivated. What has happened?

This is pretty frustrating. I have almost arrived. Never mind...

I don't see we will get any longer with it. It doesn't look like we will make this project finished
And also, I want something else in my future
I have some big dreams, that I want to make
Something that I will have a wonderful future and a wonderful life

I'm sorry I can't do this anymore :(
Hope you can appreciate it, that it's OK

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #31 on: August 19, 2012, 04:12:13 pm »
Fine.

The main thing is that I have no idea how to know where and how it can be possible to obtain a piece of land in a natural area, and in what measures this can be done legally, independently of the country.

I have no idea on my side, and I am quite a bit afraid of asking, not even knowing to who I should ask.

However, it is difficult to ask for a piece of land while not really knowing what kind of group we are. I don't think we can just jump in and ask "We need a nice natural space, we don't want to live in houses anymore, please give us some land". This is not possible.

If we could make this project contributing to society in some way (maintaining and monitoring a natural area, contributing to tourism, showing how it is possible to live in a forest with almost nothing), this can provide us with both money and public utility. I think we never have spoken about this yet.

Please keep in mind that all this work to find information in the forums and transforming it in clear ideas also takes time and that I am overwhelmed by work.

Clearly, it is okay if you suspend your participation. But I need help. I really want to do this, but I cannot do this alone.
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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2012, 05:12:46 pm »
Fine.

The main thing is that I have no idea how to know where and how it can be possible to obtain a piece of land in a natural area, and in what measures this can be done legally, independently of the country.

I have no idea on my side, and I am quite a bit afraid of asking, not even knowing to who I should ask.

However, it is difficult to ask for a piece of land while not really knowing what kind of group we are. I don't think we can just jump in and ask "We need a nice natural space, we don't want to live in houses anymore, please give us some land". This is not possible.

If we could make this project contributing to society in some way (maintaining and monitoring a natural area, contributing to tourism, showing how it is possible to live in a forest with almost nothing), this can provide us with both money and public utility. I think we never have spoken about this yet.

Please keep in mind that all this work to find information in the forums and transforming it in clear ideas also takes time and that I am overwhelmed by work.

Clearly, it is okay if you suspend your participation. But I need help. I really want to do this, but I cannot do this alone.


You have absolutely right. I don't how to say it, to buy land and all that.
I will help, but I will not join this to go out in the nature and all that
I'm really sorry for that, I have other plans for my future :)

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2012, 07:45:21 pm »
As you want. I also have my plans, but I still want to be able to live such an experience. I am not studying computer science for nothing, but this shall not prevent me to discover another way of life and experience it.  ;)


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2012, 02:26:57 am »
I will always be here, and/or at Blue Moon. :)
But I have to agree with Tsanten Eywa 'eveng, this project has been very "undermanned" for a very long time and every attempt to recruit new members before has failed, so unless Project Tribal undergoes some radical changes (don't ask me what those would be, I don't know), I almost think the project, in itself, is going to die.
Because we never seem to have much more than ~2-3 committed members, regardless of what the polls say.

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If we could make this project contributing to society in some way (maintaining and monitoring a natural area, contributing to tourism, showing how it is possible to live in a forest with almost nothing), this can provide us with both money and public utility. I think we never have spoken about this yet.
This is something we've talked about at Blue Moon too.
I can't find a specific thread, but here for example...
http://forest-living.org/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=86

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2012, 07:58:21 am »
How many are they at Blue Moon? I think the number of people is not a relevant thing. You can't have hundreds of people on a project that is starting and that takes time (also because some committed members have an ongoing life behind, which should be reassuring). There were more active people before? Well, many people went off to take care of their respective lives, but from time to time, we see some people who look how things are going here. It is not impossible that if we manage to develop this to something that can actually really happen : there must be some few people that prepare the base, that is currently incomplete.

This is a boring and difficult job, and it may be depressing since only 2 or 3 people are only trying to make this go further. But this is how works the vast majority of the world's project, so I personally try to get on with it.  :)

I'd like to underline the fact that I raised some questions about the recurrent issue blocking us : how can we legally get a land (even paid) and live in the way we want legally? Then to answer to this, how can we market our project to a municipality to make it something both livable for people and that can actually be interactive and contributive. I try to inspire myself of one other ambitious projec in France where they are (still) building a real castle using middle-age ways of construction only... due to legal stuff, they had to have some proper modern protections and follow norms for some stuff. But on our side, we hardly got answers to this. I actually have got no replies even from active people on this.

I won't stop. I will add things to the site no later than today, but I want to meet people outside while it is sunny. I just want to be able to take care of my own life as well, even though I admit I am slow and generally delay stuff (I am apocalyptically badly organized), I apologize. The thing is that I refuse to give up, as I consider this as the easy solution, even if I am among the only ones on this fantastic idea/project. I don't expect people to come by magic until it has a proper shape. I find it great there are still former members still looking at this forum and that are still willing to see this take shape progressively.

This is my way of thinking. Please correct me if you feel I am wrong though. I wonder how things are going in Blue Moon. I don't see this move that much, looking at their front page either, probably because it also takes time in the free time of people.

Let me take the sun and then write some stuff. I will also create accounts for you so that you can contribute, as I have promised. I must do this anyway before the forums crash again...


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2012, 08:16:14 am »
I sure hope you are right. ;)
And yes, just 2-3 people can "sit it out" until, eventually, people come back or new people join.
But still, it's better to have 10-20 semi-active people than 2-3 dito. :P More hands and heads, more work can be done. (But of course, in some cases, 2-3 people can make more work than 10-20... but I'm speaking generally and theoretically.)

But like I said, I hope you're right, and I will stick with these projects until it's sure they'll fail (which I hope they never will), and if they do, I will have to find a backup plan. :(

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #37 on: September 09, 2012, 03:59:12 pm »
As you want. I also have my plans, but I still want to be able to live such an experience. I am not studying computer science for nothing, but this shall not prevent me to discover another way of life and experience it.  ;)

I just gotta remind you and all other

It might be a possibility that I will be on this project and go out in the nature, and live free forever
I haven't ruled it out

I hope I can join, I hope this project will go well, and make it real, It should be real, we must do it.

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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #38 on: September 10, 2012, 09:41:32 pm »
I feel the same.


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Re: Maybe gonna leave RLNT
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2012, 04:03:47 pm »
I am still thinking about to join this. I really want to :)
It would be a lifetime experience


I will help with this project, really. It would be cool sometime that we could have a meeting about this. All the one who is gonna join this, we gather up a meeting, and talking about this. Instead of taking it right here on the forum, that would maybe be more easier

 

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