Leadership Positions, the vote.

[Fnua Atxkxe]

Having established the positions that we seem to want, now we have to decide who should fulfill them ^_^ Please don't vote for yourself ^^ Simply put the position followed by the person you think should be in charge as I have.

Research - 'Eylan Ayikranä
Skills (like survival etc) - Tonbogiri
Traditions and laws - Eana Ikran
Morale and membership (e.g. maybe getting the word out to other parts of the forum or beyond to increase mebership) - Uriuujìn
General overseeing (i.e. making sure the board is running smoothly) - erms, honestly I struggled with this one, would just say that it should go to someone who can promise to be online at least once every day

[Nanaki]

It's ok for me too (persons you said)

[guest2859]

Wow. I'll keep the position, but I'm now glad that I'll have time.

EDIT: Though I can see it slipping in a few directions. I can probably teach bowmaking when I'm not at the Eco-Village (IOW, I can spend the evening at the EV, and the tribe the rest of the time). Weapon-making will probably be the only 'skill' I will be able to teach, because I'm not a survival expert. 

[Predict]

Okay for me as well. Thanks for the vote Fnua. Eana, you've got a good 4 years (it's always 4 years away) to become a "survival expert", the pressure's on .

The "General Overseeing" is very important, definitely online every day, they would need to really know the direction of the tribe and be able to ensure people keep on topic and we make progress, they could probably help allocate people jobs if they wanted it. If everyone is ignoring something important they should be the one to get us back on track. Someone organized, efficient and committed.

[guest2859]

The 4 years is looking to 8 because of my age and the education I have to get.

[Tonbogiri]

Wow! I have been voted for. Thanks Fnua!

If anyone is interested, I am aiming to take part in a 9 month residential course on wilderness skills and survival. Eana, perhaps you should aim for this course too!

http://www.wildernessawareness.org/adult/residential_program.html


Hmmm, traditions and Laws, eh. Sounds fun...

[Nanaki]

If anyone is interested, I am aiming to take part in a 9 month residential course on wilderness skills and survival. Eana, perhaps you should aim for this course too!

It is really interesting ! Have fun !

[guest2859]

That does look interesting, but I'm not going to take it right away. I have to set up a schedule to get me near to ready for that.

[Tsteu'itan]

That actually looks really fun.    Maybe the closer to the realization of the project, it could become a requirement for all of the members to take the course.  It would be extremely important for the majority of the members to know how to survive, instead of relying on a small number of the members to teach them when they're already out in the tribe and have less room for error.

[Fnua Atxkxe]

The "General Overseeing" is very important, definitely online every day, they would need to really know the direction of the tribe and be able to ensure people keep on topic and we make progress, they could probably help allocate people jobs if they wanted it. If everyone is ignoring something important they should be the one to get us back on track. Someone organized, efficient and committed.

Exactly ^_^

If anyone is interested, I am aiming to take part in a 9 month residential course on wilderness skills and survival. Eana, perhaps you should aim for this course too!

On second thought then.... maybe you should be on the skills job :v *edits furiously*

[Predict]

So, who is suitable for the general overseeing? Or "The Overseer", hrh.

I still say we stick anthropology back in, Tonbogiri can handle that as well . It'd be nice to have someone quietly collecting everything about other tribes we find, perhaps a unofficial role.

Also, Eana, do you want to head up laws and traditions? (kind of seemed worth asking, assume you do)

[guest2859]

Heh, not really. I think there could still be a 'weapons making' under the skill thing. (Yeah, that's about what I'll be good on, I tried making a personal items rack and it failed epically)

[Velaar]

Heh, not really. I think there could still be a 'weapons making' under the skill thing. (Yeah, that's about what I'll be good on, I tried making a personal items rack and it failed epically)

Bad idea as in most countries in the world, it's illegal to hunt with self-made weapons (the countries that allow bow hunting for example usually require the use of compound bows). The only self-made thing that can be commonly allowed are traps in the countries that do allow trap hunting.

[Predict]

I think we're going to be sufficiently distant from any settlements to make this particular law flexible but good point. It is worth considering hunting restrictions, perhaps we could have an exception made because of our exceptional circumstances (can't afford to buy in bullets/highly impractical). It may yet not be an issue, do you have any knowledge of country's specific laws?

Tonbogiri, would you prefer skills or traditions? It's important that everyone wants to be in these positions, not going to do much otherwise.

[Tonbogiri]

If you guys are willing to give me the time to learn, then skills. The course I will take lasts for 9 months, and a more comprehensive program could not be asked for.
The person in charge of this needs to have real experience. For me, this only consists of a week-long course in the north of england, but more training is coming.
Still, I would like the skills post. I like nothing better than the great outdoors, and my knowledge of other tribal cultures could prove useful.
Dear me, that sounds cliched... but I also like anthropology.

EDIT: The skills manager (me me me...hopes) and the laws and traditions manager need to work closely together, as skills training etc will become a big part of tribal life. If no-one else wants to do traditions, then I can always switch.

[Predict]

Sounds good. A 9 month course will be a lot more experience than most. Eana, how about we call you the unofficial weapons expert? If you don't want traditions I'm sure we can find someone else, Tonbogiri could always take both for now, there won't be too much happening in those areas for a while so someone else could take over later.

[Predict]

Resurrecting this thread before it falls off the first page.
I think it's important we settle these positions as they will greatly improve organisation. Do we want: Poll for every position or just an "are you okay with these" yes/no poll?

We've discussed them quite thoroughly and that should be enough but unfortunately (because it's an online forum) we can't guarantee that all members are have participated. Or even agreed and not posted.

[guest2859]

Well... I don't know how we can do a poll like every position... It'd be too much time, but if it's decided, it'll probably be easier done on a 3rd party website... I think it should be a yes/no.

[Tsteu'itan]

If you did a poll for it, you could set it up much like the election polls are done:  Have each catagory listed, and then have each person available for a roll listed under the section, giving people the option to choose which one they want in the position.  Once the poll is over, you could tally the votes and see what comes of it.

I know you don't want it to be a "democratic republic" type of hierarchy, but just to get things going, that could be the best way to go.  And it wouldn't require any grandstanding or electoral colleges or candidate battles the way we have in the states every election seasons.     The last thing we want is members of the tribe making smear campaigns against each other.  (J/K, I know you guys wouldn't do that.   )

If there aren't enough people to create multiple options for each section, then the yes/no style would probably be best.  And perhaps a place to put in your own suggestions in case one of the members of the boards knows someone who's worked really hard at this but has been really shy to come forward.

[Predict]

I think the best compromise would be to say, discussion of positions is open for a week, in this time anyone who feels they would be suitable can say so we debate (a bit ) and form a final list. Then a Yes/No vote, if the majority are happy after that much time then I would say it is fair, everyone has had the opportunity to voice their opinion. 

These are only temporary positions that will evolve. We also need someone dedicated and organised to overseer general operations. No power, simply someone to keep an eye on the whole tribe's progress and offer advice.

I hope we will eventually operate as an egalitarian community, I think this view is shared by many and there are significant real-world examples of communities run this way. Obviously we may have spiritual leaders, co-ordinators or simply respected individuals but no one needs greater power: respect conveys greater influence.