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Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« on: March 05, 2010, 06:20:15 pm »
Please keep checking the 1st post here for new info. It is updated regularly and it saves me time if I don't have to keep track of who has not read this or responded to that. I don't want to sound whiney but I can only move organizing this forward id people keep me up to date with what is going on with their respective situations. Irayo ulte Eywa ngahu


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Having been talking with one of our newest potential triber's Tonbogiri. We have decided to plan for a 1-2 week camping trip somewhere in the UK in the summer of 2011. The specifics have yet to be decided upon so all suggestions on location and any ideas' about what you want to do are welcome. Initially, I ask that anyone interested place a pin on this map here:

  Map of people's locations


This will allow us to see everyone's location and help us to plan where we want to set the camp. This was initially thought of to benefit UK tribe members however it has come to my attention that there may be interest from people from the likes of France and anyone who wishes to attend is more than welcome, so long as you speak English like Nanaki :D. The date for this project is not set in stone either, this was just an initial suggestion. Everything about this has yet to be decided and is open to discussion. I would also like to take the time to thank Tonbogiri. Although new to this forum and the tribe, his/her idea has motivated me to do this and I am sure he/she will make an excellent addition to our family. Eywa ngahu oeyä ma smuk. I look forward to hearing from you all!

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TRAVEL AND COST 


Right, the plan for travel is this; after booking into hotel for 1 night in, we then head to Paddington station, from then we travel to Plymouth station, then we get taxi's too Dartmoor. Then essentially the reverse on the way back. Naturally this does mean that we shall be incurring some costs. The projected cost per person (not including traveling to and out of London) is estimated to be around £200. This includes the London accommodation, taxi's and train tickets. While this may end up being slightly cheaper possibly £150, I would like to assume £200 for the purpose of planning. I am sorry if this excludes anyone but this is how it has to be. Now that you know this, I will be asking for confirmation of whether or not you can still make it. If a decent amount of people are coming we will move on to exact times for booking flights and travel etc. 


I have now located a location for our accommodation for the first day in the London meet. Price is 39GBP for a room. Have a look here  Map showing London accommodation


Please place a pin on this map to show where you will arrive in London.
Map of where you will arrive in London


Currently we have 5 places left on the 2010 If you are interested please say so! We have no places left on the 2011 trip but if you are interested then please say as not everyone is sure they can make it. :D

Some who have indicated their interest have not added a pin of their location on the map. They are: Swokéyan, Swizaw Nguway, Halo Huskybutt, and 'Itan Atxur. If you are interested, please add a pin on map of people's locations. If not please let me know so I can update the lists. Irayo



We have reached a consensus on the following:

Yes to a meet-up this year (summer 2010), interested people:


fnua atxkxe (organizer)
eywa´eveng frrtu sì (maybe)
Tonbogiri
Sezawte
Keye'ung
D.M. Atlas (probably)


Yes to a meet-up next year (summer 2011), interested people:
fnua atxkxe (organizer)
Nanaki
eywa´eveng frrtu sì
Ean-nari
Tonbogiri
Sezawte
'Itan Atxur (maybe)
Tutean-tìhawnu
twonyu ikranä (resident drill sergeant)
Swokéyan
Swizaw Nguway
Halo Huskybutt
loveofnature


Yes to a meet-up in London on the first day. (voting was 5-1)

Location - Dartmoor National Park
If you have any suggestions please add a location pin here:
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No more than 13 people on the trip. (calculated as an average of all submitted votes on this subject)

Date: July 26-Aug 4th 2010

We have decided that the 2010 trip will be more of a focus on getting to know each and less about preparation for the tribal lifestyle. There will be the cost of staying in hotel in London (price unknown ATM, will not be 5 star obviously so should be as cheap as possible)


Members who we are unsure if they can make it:
twonyu ikranä (for 2010)
Swizaw Nguway (for 2010)
Halo Huskybutt (for 2010)

Things still to be discussed:

Travel and practicalities - yet to be discussed
Activities - yet to be discussed


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« Last Edit: May 04, 2010, 03:49:16 pm by Fnua Atxkxe »
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Re: Meetup/Practice in the UK
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2010, 07:00:45 pm »
Ok, just one thing : I'm not good at vocal ;D (well it's not that I'm not good, but I didn't really speak with others english people yet :D)
But i'm really interested for this project !! :)

oh, And we can't edit the google map to add our location ;)

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Re: Meetup/Practice in the UK
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 07:03:45 pm »
You don't have to be great at English, just enough so that we know more or less what you're saying ;D

Didn't know about the map, hang on I'll take a look.
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Re: Meetup/Practice in the UK
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 07:06:04 pm »
It's good, I can edit now, I add my location ;D
'Itan Atxur : Just remember, NO idea is too crazy <3

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Re: Meetup/Practice in the UK
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2010, 07:10:31 pm »
Yay, problem fixed, I wanted to hide the map from people who don't have the url so people off this forum don't wreck this but I forgot to allow anyone to collaborate. Should be no more problems ;D

Confession, I don't actually have msn, I just have an email (see profile) I'll look into getting one now :D
« Last Edit: March 05, 2010, 08:33:25 pm by fnua atxkxe »
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Re: Meetup/Practice in the UK
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2010, 07:14:51 pm »
Ok no problem :D
'Itan Atxur : Just remember, NO idea is too crazy <3

Then, Everything changed ... I am fallen in love. I am fallen in love with the forest, Omatikaya people, with you ...
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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2010, 09:53:00 pm »
voila added my pin. i'm from Belgium.
Where pretty far away from each other but for me it doesn't mather where the camping trip is.If i'm free at that time i'll defenetly join.

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Re: Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2010, 01:33:26 am »
Added my pin ;D.
I really like this idea.
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« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2010, 04:22:50 am »
I'm up for this!!!! ;D although... :( could somebody add my pin for me, I don't have a google account
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Re: Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2010, 04:23:35 am »
Kaltxi, fellow tribal buddies!
Great to see so much interest so soon. Added my marker!
And where are you, Sezawte?


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Re: Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2010, 04:50:14 am »
me and sezawte have sorta discussed doin it this year.

a good place to do it (although its kinda illegal) is sailsbury plain. iv been out there for 2 weeks before, there are a few drawbacks to it but there are allot of plus sides.


ill put 2 makers down 1 for the plain near where i live and another where i actually live.

the fact is i have all the OS maps of teh area and an extensive knowledge of it (which might be helpful)





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Re: Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2010, 04:58:26 am »
Kaltxi Twonyu,
If people who are ready really want to go this year, then I have no problems. My summer will be full up, but I'll help out in any way possible.
I will be aiming for 2011, so good luck :D!

I'm going to start researching on places where it is not illegal to make camp for a week or two. I'll report back soon...


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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2010, 05:07:30 am »
I found the following guidelines on wilderness camping:

The Law
Tolerance
Some Helpful Tips

Wilderness Camping in the UK, and especially England and Wales, is often seen as an ambiguous notion and the subject of great discussion. Whatever the outcome of the argument may be, common sense should prevail to maintain the Status Quo of a truly wonderful experience for all - Wilderness Camping.

The Law
The legal situation for Wilderness Camping differs greatly in Scotland from England and Wales. In England and Wales there is no legal right to camp in the wild, and permission should be sought from the landowner before pitching your tent, but this is impractical of course.

Tolerance
In the hilly and mountainous areas of England and Wales, Wilderness Camping is, thankfully, generally accepted if you pitch your tent within the following guidelines: is above the intake walls, is discreet, is only for a short period, and is out of sight of any houses or farms.

If you are asked to move on by a landowner or farmer then do so politely, but this is virtually unheard of and you've probably not adhered to the above!

Always abide with local by-laws concerning wild camping. In the Peak District, Wilderness Camping is discouraged in many areas and banned completely if the moors are very dry.

The most popular and hassle free areas for Wilderness Camping in England and Wales are probably in the Lake District and Snowdonia, here you can expect to come across other like minded campers pitched around one of the many Tarns.

In Scotland, things are different where Wilderness camping is concerned: the new legislation which came into effect in 20005 states that you need only be further than 100 metres from a road, that's great news, but you'd probably want to be a great deal further away from a road than that! For further details on wild camping in Scotland, contact Scottish Natural Heritage.

The area that bucks the trend in England is Dartmoor, where thanks to an amendment of the National Parks & Access to the Countryside Act 1949, amendment Dartmoor Commons Act 1985

Article 6 states:

6 Camping

No person shall knowingly use any vehicle, including a caravan or any structure other than a tent for the purpose of camping on the access land or land set out for the use or parking of vehicles except on any area which may be set apart and indicated by notice as a place where such camping is permitted.
No person shall knowingly erect a tent on the access land for the use of camping:
(a) In an area listed in schedule 2 to these byelaws;
(b) Within 100 metres of any public road or in any enclosure.
No person shall camp in a tent on the same site on the access land for more than two consecutive nights, except on any area, which may be set apart and indicated by notice as a place where such camping is permitted.
That's more like it! As long as you adhere to the above, you can camp where you like.

Some Useful Tips
Camp discretely as possible
Leave your campsite as you found it
Keep group size to a minimum
Carry out everything that you carried in, especially rubbish
Do not dig drainage ditches around your tent or move boulders; find a more suitable spot
Toilet duties should be performed 30 metres or more from water and everything buried using a trowel or shovel
All ways strive to preserve the environment

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So the basic theme is somwhere out of the way, and make it discreet. Scotland sounds good from this, but can be cold and not a good simulation of our future tribal culture. Lake District sounds good as well, but a lot more red tape to be avoided.
Im all for Twonyu's idea to run rings round the military on Salisbury Plain! Would be a real good test of our skills.
EDIT - Dartmoor a possibility, but is very bleak and not the woodland scenario we're looking for.
In practical terms though, I think we should aim for somewhere we are least likely to be arrested.
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Re: Meet-up/Practice in the UK
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2010, 05:42:50 am »
well it is illegal to camp on sailsbury plain but only because its owned by the army!

and if you wanna get a taste for what teh tribe is gonna be like then i would say that not going to a campsite would be very wise. the chances of getting shot at or arrested are very slim, they have rangers that go around but they are easy to avoid and spot, and even if they catch you they just tell you move along and that you shouldnt be doing it, if u act totally oblivious





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« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2010, 06:37:36 am »
*woot* this has really come on since I logged off last night, I wan't sure how much interest there would be. I'd be up for this year, my summer will be empty ;D. 2011 was just the initial idea. sailsbury plain souds intresting. I agree that not going to a campsite is better, otherwise if things get tough we're not encouraged to adapt. Great to see some people from belgium and teh nederlands interested too. :D

Also, so locations and people don't get mixed up, I have created a new map for potential locations. I have moved the Salisbury plain marker onto it :D
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2010, 08:01:02 am »
Wow, Nice to see a lot of ppl !!
I think it will be hard for me this year ... 2011 is better ;D
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« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2010, 08:04:07 am »
2011 seems to be more practical for a couple of people to make this 2011. Gives more time to plan I suppose. We could always do both ;D :D ;D
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« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2010, 08:04:58 am »
2011 seems to be more practical for a couple of people to make this 2011. Gives more time to plan I suppose. We could always do both ;D :D ;D

And more time to have enough money :D
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« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2010, 08:06:47 am »
Hmmm... Yes. More expensive for people who have to travel to UK. :(
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« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2010, 08:10:57 am »
We could do an optional practice this year and another next year? :P
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