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Website Info / Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Last post by Tirea Aean on Yesterday at 04:54:22 pm »
I'm banging away at making time to update the dictionary. Stay tuned!   :D

If you don't have time, I do, with your permission ;)
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Movies/TV / Re: The Video of the day
« Last post by Toliman on Yesterday at 01:48:58 pm »
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Intermediate / Re: Na'vi Reference Grammar
« Last post by Tirea Aean on Yesterday at 11:40:23 am »
EDIT: After drafting this post, I think it is exactly what Vawmataw is talking about anyway. I guess it might serve as a clarification or "I agree" sort of post.

Section 5.1. Derivational Affixes is a bit strange. It states that the affixes are not freely productive unless stated but it is not CLEARLY indicated that some affix is productive (with the exception of 5.1.4.1.).

The first introductory paragraph of 5.1 indeed ends with this statement:
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Unless otherwise stated, the affixes below are not freely productive

What that means is, None of them are, unless one of the following subsections declares one to be productive. I suppose what could be done is, for all the subsections that describe a fully productive or semi-productive affix, said subsection could include the word "productive" somehow as and where appropriate. For example,

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5.1.2.3. The ke- prefix may be used with root adjectives and participles, in which case the accent
usually shifts to ke-, as in keteng different from teng same, equal and kerusey dead from rusey
living. However, note keyawr incorrect from eyawr correct.

Is this "may be used with" phrasing to say that it's "fully productive with root adjectives and participles"? or is it that we just see it non-productively used with these?

As noted, 5.1.4.1 already does explicitly specify "fully productive" in the manner suggested here:
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5.1.4.1. Tì- ‹us› creates a gerund. It is fully productive for verb roots and compounds (si-construction
verbs, §5.3.3, cannot be made into a gerund). This is most useful when a simple tìderivation
already has an established meaning, as in rey live, tìrey life, but tìrusey living. In compounds,
tì- comes at the beginning of the word and ‹us› goes into the verbal element of the
compound, yomtìng becomes tìyomtusìng. See also §6.9.2. Forum (31/1/2013)

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Also:

Wllìm Today at 10:28 AM
(unrelated: I think there is a typo in §5.1.2.3: it should be ke-YAWR and e-YAWR instead of key-AWR and ey-AWR, so the y should be underlined in the stress marking?)
Indeed. It's noted as such ([kɛ.'jawr]) in the Official Dictionary PDF
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Intermediate / Re: Na'vi Reference Grammar
« Last post by Vawmataw on Yesterday at 09:45:30 am »
Section 5.1. Derivational Affixes is a bit strange. It states that the affixes are not freely productive unless stated but it is not CLEARLY indicated that some affix is productive (with the exception of 5.1.4.1.).

Also:

Wllìm Today at 10:28 AM
(unrelated: I think there is a typo in §5.1.2.3: it should be ke-YAWR and e-YAWR instead of key-AWR and ey-AWR, so the y should be underlined in the stress marking?)
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Science / Re: Astronomy thread/Kìng a teri tanhìä tìftia
« Last post by Toliman on Yesterday at 09:26:08 am »
I have again clear sky so I observed after midnight till morning.

I observed galaxies in autumn constellations (NGC7331, NGC235, NGC247, M77, M74, NGC891 + few less bright), globular clusters M15, M2 and NGC288 and again any open clusters in Cepheus, Cassiopeia, Perseus and Auriga.

Galaxy NGC253 was nice and interesting - it's very bright galaxy but unfortunatelly with low declination. However I was able to see nice structure of this galaxy.
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Language updates / Re: 'count to', wä and sequential genitive (discussion)
« Last post by Plumps on Yesterday at 02:00:06 am »
FYI, I’ve sent our little discussion to K. Pawl. We’ll have to see what he’ll make of it.
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Science / Re: Astronomy thread/Kìng a teri tanhìä tìftia
« Last post by Toliman on August 17, 2018, 05:26:48 pm »
Update on Jim Fahey: He's very weak but not slowed down. He plans to be at tonight's public star party just to be there! These stents produce such quick results, I know of a guy who was at a trade show in the morning, had a heart agttack, had a stent or two put in him and was back on the show floor that afternoon!
O.o ... it's remarkable.

Ma Toliman, you might want to check out an interesting object in Andromeda. It's called the 'andromeda parachute', and is a gravitationally lensed galaxy that is bright enough to see in a reasonable telescope (at least 12 inches aperture IIRC) Due to the smoke at OSP, I never did get a chance to look at it, or any other level 3 challenge object :(
Irayo :) I will try observe it when I will again under dark sky.

I hope to go next year (July 30-August4), but it looks like there are multiple conflicts, even a year out :(
:( I hope that it will not happen.
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Science / Re: Astronomy thread/Kìng a teri tanhìä tìftia
« Last post by `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on August 17, 2018, 05:18:44 pm »
Update on Jim Fahey: He's very weak but not slowed down. He plans to be at tonight's public star party just to be there! These stents produce such quick results, I know of a guy who was at a trade show in the morning, had a heart agttack, had a stent or two put in him and was back on the show floor that afternoon!

Ma Toliman, you might want to check out an interesting object in Andromeda. It's called the 'andromeda parachute', and is a gravitationally lensed galaxy that is bright enough to see in a reasonable telescope (at least 12 inches aperture IIRC) Due to the smoke at OSP, I never did get a chance to look at it, or any other level 3 challenge object :(

And speaking of OSP, here's the continuation of the story.

After the Lassen Astronomy festival, I returned to Reno to regroup, and catch the last night of a Chinese lantern festival that had been running in Reno for the past six weeks. They were auctioning off a few lanterns that evening, and I wanted to try and get one for myself. I did, in fact succeed, and ended up with two corn flower lanterns, each standing about 4 1/2 feet (1.4 meters) high. The only caveat was I had to pick them up Tuesday morning, when I should have been on the road to Oregon. After a little calculation, I worked out if I picked them up promptly at 9 AM, I could drop them off at my house, which is on the way to Oregon, and be on the road, probably by 10 AM. This put me at OSP at 6 PM, well in time to get situated and be ready to observe.

Like all good plans, it didn't work ;) There was some delay getting the lanterns ready, and we decided at the last moment to display them in the lobby of the TV station I work at, for a while. So by the time all was taken care of, I didn't hit the road until 10:30 AM.

The drive to Oregon was flawless, but loooong! Despite minimal stops (I don't mess around when I drive long distance), it took 9 1/2 hours, not the advertised 8 hours. I got on site two minutes before the site closed to traffic for the night. I hurridly picked up a spot to srt up. It was less than ideal but still in a good area. I had no time to set up a tent, so I slept under the stars that night. If there had been a little more privacy, I would have done that every night! I had brought some cold meat to eat in case something like this happened, so I didn't have to worry about preparing dinner.

The skies were a different story. Smoky. Up to above the ecliptic. Only the zenith was reasonably clear, and that wasn't very good, either. I was dog tired from the long, hot drive and didn't feel like setting up my 'scope. I finally did set it up, but I couldn't get it to collimate. So, I gave up and got a good night's rest.

The next day, I spent putting my camp together, which was a slow process. 104 degrees F (40 degrees C) heat made me work for a while, then rest. The tents for the star party activities arrived real late, so I also suddenly found myself assembling and testing the AV system. And I'm glad I did, as there were two surprise unscheduled presentations that evening. I barely had a chance to eat dinner before it was too dark to cook.

Conditions Wednesday were no better than Tuesday night. I solved the collimation problem (hardware had worked loose), but now the digital setting circles were behaving very badly. After a frustrating evening, I decided to get a good night's sleep. I set up the solar panel to charge the battery in the telescope, and discovered a nearly indestructible, military grade connector had somehow become damaged, and I couldn't plug the charger into the 'scope. Luckily, the battery was fully charged, and had enough power available for the next several nights, as long as I didn't run the mirror cooling fan.

Thursday was a repeat of Wednesday, but I could relax more. The heat was still unbearable. At the morning swap meet, i managed to score a Sky Quality Meter for just $50. I also picked up some meteorite samples from a meteorite dealer who was displaying there. This was the first time I had seen many of the meteroite types, so now I have samples to use for public events. I also did AV for several presentations throughout the day and evening. I also tried out my new griddle. It was great, at least for breakfast sausage.

Thursday evening's sky conditions were a repeat of Tuesday and Wednesday. I did find a problem with the digital setting circles, but they still didn't track as they should. Another unproductive night under the smoke ;)

Friday was a little cooler and there was a little breeze. I tried pancakes on the griddle, and ended up with a pile of pancake bits. But this is something I need to practice! There were several presentations again that day, including one on doing your own mirror coating. There was a guy with a 40 inch Dob there who did his own mirror coating, with good results. However, the coating is only good for a few months.

Things finally improved on Saturday. It cooled significantly as they day went on. In the morning, there was a kids vs adults astronomy quiz, ad for once, the adults won! (It's heavily biased towards the kids.) Later that day was the door prize drawing. OSP has a really good door prize drawing, and I walked away with a Meade 15 mm, 100 degree AFOV eyepiece, one of the major door prizes. I also won a pair of beautiful 'coffee table' astronomy books. The evening presentation was on LIGO and collorbative astronomy.

The skies weren't perfect, but they were much better Saturday night. And much to my pleasant surprise, the digital setting circles on my 'scope suddenly decided to work. (The problems might have had something to do with the excessive heat.) I put my nose to the grindstone, stayed up until 3 AM, and did enough observing (and sketching at the eyepiece) to earn my level 2 deep sky observing pin. This is the second such pin I have earned! In contrast to previous nights, it got cold enough I finally had to don my winter coat.

Sunday morning, I had my sketching judged, and got credit for all 23 objects I observed. Only 16 were needed to earn the pin, so I received my pin with no question. I then helped members of the OSP committee pack up all their equipment for next year. This was supposed to take all afternoon. It took 45 minutes. I spent the rest of the day relaxing and looking through my star charts. etc. I purposely took my 'scope down so I could concentrate on enjoying the Persieds, and doing tome time lapse astrophotagraphy. I also looked at a boring sun (nothing going on!) with the solar 'scope.

I packed my camp and drove home Monday morning. Even though OSP had officially been over for more than a day, there were still a couple dozen folks there still set up and observing. Some of them will stay at least another week. The drive home was also uneventful, other than trying a different route home. On the route, a critical intersection was under construction, and I missed the turn. I had to do a lot of backtracking to make up for that missed turn, and nearly missed it again.

But despite the four smoky nights, I feel it was a very successful trip, and definitely not time wasted! I hope to go next year (July 30-August4), but it looks like there are multiple conflicts, even a year out :(
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Spam / Re: Can we get 90002 posts?
« Last post by Toliman on August 17, 2018, 03:15:48 pm »
Good!
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Spam / Re: Can we get 90002 posts?
« Last post by archaic on August 17, 2018, 01:11:25 pm »
Just tidying up a few artifacts.
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