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The asteroid occultation on Friday night didn't go so well, but primarily due to poor planning. I thought I had allowed enough time to get everything set up. I was wrong. I needed an additional hour. Although I had some minor problems with the StarSense device on this particular telescope, this problem was expected when moving the StarSense camera from one 'scope to another.

I did not get data during the prescribed window, but I did get good data, nonetheless. Everything worked perfectly once everything was set up, and the sky conditions were absolutely gorgeous. Since this was a low probability event anyway, I chalked this one up to a learning experience. (No station close to me observed an occultation, either.)
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AvatarMeet 2018 / Re: AvatarMeet 2018 North America (ideas and such)
« Last post by Wind12 on Today at 01:01:46 am »
In general, I am starting to come around to TrueLoveForNeytiri's thoughts concerning venue. Not necessarily Vancouver (Aargh, no hydrothermal features there, and the cougars up there are known to carry rabies ;) ), but AvatarMeet venues in general.

I learned the hard way in 2013 what rooms cost in Shennendoah National Park after an 'Apollo 13' level technical glitch made it impossible to camp (and I had gone to a great deal of trouble to ship camping gear out east). First, I shared a cabin with someone else (it did come with linens), but after I injured myself, I had to move into a hotel setting in the park. The net result was a $600+ cost overrun which was on top of an already expensive trip. Hotel rooms around most National Parks are expensive. And I know almost for a fact that folks like K. Pawl will want a hotel room (He and John did come to Shennendoah, though).

If Yellowstone is like Kings Canyon National Park, or even even Occoho National Forest (Home of the Oregon Star Party), the time to drive into the park is measured in hours. Shennendoah, from civilization, was nearly that bad. Any event in such a park commits you for that event. (Lassen and another park that would be a great back-to-nature park, Great Basin National Park are not nearly so bad.) I have no idea about Grand Canyon National Park. Yosemite has not been mentioned, but should be considered as a more compact park (and the primary way to/from Yosemite would be through Reno!). Yellowstone, Grand Canyon and Yosemite have one thing in common though-- they are major tourist traps!

That brings us back to having a venue close to a major international airport, which generally also means close to a big city. This solves logistics problems for people who aren't good at dealing with logistics problems. For those that want to camp, make the camping part optional, as was the case in 2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015. This also rules out any camping venues not reasonably close to the city/international airport combo. The 2014 camping event should be considered an extreme outlier for what is possible, although that was an important and memorable part of that trip. (2015 was almost as bad in that respect, but staying at Marki's place was almost magical!)

These factors rule out meetups in Lassen or Yellowstone, or require great logistical planning, especially for Yellowstone. It also opens up Reno as a possible meetup location, as we have awesome wilderness areas (including Lassen aand Lake Tahoe), but we also have an urban area with things to do and an international airport. And even though it is disdained by some, so does Las Vegas. There are some incredible outdoor activities, in some cases, just 20 minutes outside the city (like Red Rock Canyon, which also has campgrounds). Plus, if you stay away from the 'strip', there are plenty of inexpensive hotels with great service all over the city.

That said, if anyone is interested, it would be fun to plan a mini-meetup in a place like Lassen (perhaps during its Astronomy Festival in early August) or Great Basin National Park.

Also, I have not yet looked at what the drive to Yellowstone is like, but gut feeling is it is a 2 day each way trip.
Irayo for your thoughts ma tsmukan. I too want to clear the air, its not that I don't think Yellowstone would be fun or be a very neat place to stay, but for me, I save up for a long time and then I try to plan my flights and travel months in advance, to make sure I can "visualise" how things are going to get me to the meet and back home, and having lots of possible loose ends in terms of travel makes me a bit nervous, it would be a big blow if I tried to plan for a trip for a long time and then couldn't make it at the last minute because I missed a connecting flight, or I get stranded in a smaller town that I have never been to, I DO  appriciate the offers for giving rides from TEAgaming2154, and I don't blame him one bit for pulling for yellowstone, but as a person that don't live near either Yellowstone or Vancouver or any of the other places, I would just feel more comfortable if the meet were in a place that is easy to plan for getting to the hotel on my own if I have to, rides are very nice, but at the same time I want to be responsible for myself and know that I have a way to get my self there and home on my own in case I have to, also money saved on flights can be used during the meet and less travel time means more "meet" time, also if the meet were not going to be split a bit more this year it might help if there was a spot that was more off the beaten path, because there would be more planning power focused on trying to deal with the extra challenges of getting everyone there.
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In general, I am starting to come around to TrueLoveForNeytiri's thoughts concerning venue. Not necessarily Vancouver (Aargh, no hydrothermal features there, and the cougars up there are known to carry rabies ;) ), but AvatarMeet venues in general.

I learned the hard way in 2013 what rooms cost in Shennendoah National Park after an 'Apollo 13' level technical glitch made it impossible to camp (and I had gone to a great deal of trouble to ship camping gear out east). First, I shared a cabin with someone else (it did come with linens), but after I injured myself, I had to move into a hotel setting in the park. The net result was a $600+ cost overrun which was on top of an already expensive trip. Hotel rooms around most National Parks are expensive. And I know almost for a fact that folks like K. Pawl will want a hotel room (He and John did come to Shennendoah, though).

If Yellowstone is like Kings Canyon National Park, or even even Occoho National Forest (Home of the Oregon Star Party), the time to drive into the park is measured in hours. Shennendoah, from civilization, was nearly that bad. Any event in such a park commits you for that event. (Lassen and another park that would be a great back-to-nature park, Great Basin National Park are not nearly so bad.) I have no idea about Grand Canyon National Park. Yosemite has not been mentioned, but should be considered as a more compact park (and the primary way to/from Yosemite would be through Reno!). Yellowstone, Grand Canyon and Yosemite have one thing in common though-- they are major tourist traps!

That brings us back to having a venue close to a major international airport, which generally also means close to a big city. This solves logistics problems for people who aren't good at dealing with logistics problems. For those that want to camp, make the camping part optional, as was the case in 2011, 2012, 2014 and 2015. This also rules out any camping venues not reasonably close to the city/international airport combo. The 2014 camping event should be considered an extreme outlier for what is possible, although that was an important and memorable part of that trip. (2015 was almost as bad in that respect, but staying at Marki's place was almost magical!)

These factors rule out meetups in Lassen or Yellowstone, or require great logistical planning, especially for Yellowstone. It also opens up Reno as a possible meetup location, as we have awesome wilderness areas (including Lassen aand Lake Tahoe), but we also have an urban area with things to do and an international airport. And even though it is disdained by some, so does Las Vegas. There are some incredible outdoor activities, in some cases, just 20 minutes outside the city (like Red Rock Canyon, which also has campgrounds). Plus, if you stay away from the 'strip', there are plenty of inexpensive hotels with great service all over the city.

That said, if anyone is interested, it would be fun to plan a mini-meetup in a place like Lassen (perhaps during its Astronomy Festival in early August) or Great Basin National Park.

Also, I have not yet looked at what the drive to Yellowstone is like, but gut feeling is it is a 2 day each way trip.
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AvatarMeet 2018 / Re: AvatarMeet 2018 North America (ideas and such)
« Last post by Toruk Makto on Yesterday at 10:42:10 pm »
When the location goes up for a vote, at least the voters will be well-informed...   :D
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Website Info / Re: Official Na'vi Dictionary
« Last post by Toruk Makto on Yesterday at 10:35:25 pm »
Can we add later to the list of translations for mawkrr? It's how it is translated in one example in this Na'viteri post: http://naviteri.org/2011/09/miscellaneous-vocabulary/

Good catch, and probably the more common use. Thanks!
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AvatarMeet 2018 / Re: AvatarMeet 2018 North America (ideas and such)
« Last post by TEAgaming2154 on Yesterday at 09:09:40 pm »
I also want to point out that no matter the location and how hard we try, not everyone will attend.  If it doesn't work this year, try the next year.
Truth. Even some people here on this continent won't attend, but a good roster is always nice. Maybe the main meet in one location and an unrelated mini-meet in another?  :)
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AvatarMeet 2018 / Re: AvatarMeet 2018 North America (ideas and such)
« Last post by Vawmataw on Yesterday at 08:54:28 pm »
I also want to point out that no matter the location and how hard we try, not everyone will attend.  If it doesn't work this year, try the next year.
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Ok, let's stop arguing about Yellowstone and Vancouver.
You have your reasons for taking the meet to Vancouver, and I have my reasons for taking the meet to Yellowstone. And besides, the European attendees will be having their own meet to keep flight costs down.

Agreed. :)
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AvatarMeet 2018 / Re: AvatarMeet 2018 North America (ideas and such)
« Last post by TEAgaming2154 on Yesterday at 08:33:28 pm »
Ok, let's stop arguing about Yellowstone and Vancouver.
You have your reasons for taking the meet to Vancouver, and I have my reasons for taking the meet to Yellowstone. And besides, the European attendees will be having their own meet to keep flight costs down.
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IMHO Canada is really bad option for meetup because we have at least one spammer here. Just imagine what will happened during meetup. Non-stop talking  ;D

;D Well, I know this might seem hard to believe despite my long posts here, but in person I am actually quite a shy and quiet person! hrh  :-[
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