New Concept Kelutral: a vertical forest

[Nyx]

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Seriously?

I would rather live in a forest instead of this weird construction

Can I live there with you?   

I have joined the Real Life Na'vi Tribe, so I'm ready to live in a forest

Let's not make it Papua New Guinea.  They already have a couple of cannabalistic tribes with grudges.

What about Australia, or Hawaii?

Wouldn't those be a little too close to modern civilization?

What other countries do you suggest?

See tribe board for that.

As for the forest tower, I think it sounds like a pretty good idea, we can never have too many trees. But how would sunlight get to the inner parts of it? Artificial light or mirrors?

[Seze Mune]

The inner part is where the humans live.  Bedrooms, living rooms, kitchens, baths.

[Meuiama Tsamsiyu (Toruk Makto)]

Seriously?

I would rather live in a forest instead of this weird construction

Can I live there with you?   

I have joined the Real Life Na'vi Tribe, so I'm ready to live in a forest

Let's not make it Papua New Guinea.  They already have a couple of cannabalistic tribes with grudges.

What about Australia, or Hawaii?

Wouldn't those be a little too close to modern civilization?

What other countries do you suggest?

Brazil... lots of space, lots of locals that seem to embrace the white and non native peoples that are willing to help them in their cause to stop Belo Monte... I certainly want this to be stopped. I choose Brazil

[Meuiama Tsamsiyu (Toruk Makto)]

The inner part is where the humans live.  Bedrooms, living rooms, kitchens, baths.

I concur. It is literally an engineered cohabitation. Nature surrounding man and animal.

[Seze Mune]

Seriously?

I would rather live in a forest instead of this weird construction

Can I live there with you?   

I have joined the Real Life Na'vi Tribe, so I'm ready to live in a forest

Let's not make it Papua New Guinea.  They already have a couple of cannabalistic tribes with grudges.

What about Australia, or Hawaii?

Wouldn't those be a little too close to modern civilization?

What other countries do you suggest?

Brazil... lots of space, lots of locals that seem to embrace the white and non native peoples that are willing to help them in their cause to stop Belo Monte... I certainly want this to be stopped. I choose Brazil

Send me a postcard.  Brazil and Columbia swap places for either the first or second most dangerous countries in South America.  Maybe Argentina, Uruguay or Paraguay....

[Meuiama Tsamsiyu (Toruk Makto)]

Send me a postcard.  Brazil and Columbia swap places for either the first or second most dangerous countries in South America.  Maybe Argentina, Uruguay or Paraguay....

The only reason I mention this is the person per mile ratio in the forests is so small... would be a good place to just disappear. Yes, I know that in places like Rio and elsewhere a person's main source of income is actually to kidnap and ransom back to their families, US and European citizens on vacation.

[Key'ìl Nekxetse]

Back on topic: I think adding nature to cities is a very good idea, but not if people use that as an excuse to replace (for want of a better description) "real" nature (and ecosystems) with artificial supplements in new cities.
This sort of structure could help remove pollution from the atmosphere and stabilise the local climate while providing more green and maybe more food, but I seriously doubt that anything more than the hardiest species could survive. Along with other limitations (space, light, soil) this would make it more-or-less impossible to have a useful impact on biodiversity and loss of habitat.

[Meuiama Tsamsiyu (Toruk Makto)]

Back on topic: I think adding nature to cities is a very good idea, but not if people use that as an excuse to replace (for want of a better description) "real" nature (and ecosystems) with artificial supplements in new cities.
This sort of structure could help remove pollution from the atmosphere and stabilise the local climate while providing more green and maybe more food, but I seriously doubt that anything more than the hardiest species could survive. Along with other limitations (space, light, soil) this would make it more-or-less impossible to have a useful impact on biodiversity and loss of habitat.

I am afraid I do have to agree. Just watch when your city develops. A new shopping center, a new street and park. What are the trees ALWAYS planted? And it seems more often than not directly under overhead power lines so as to have to be cut down and replanted in ten years... nice of the landscapers to place that 'job security' measure... Maple trees. Always only maple trees. There is no diversity.

I would have to say that the developer and or owner of whatever tower would have to choose... and I think with separate ownership through out that we could succeed.

[Seze Mune]

You should run for the city council. I'm not kidding.  See what happens when you strap yourself in that saddle.

[Tsanten Eywa 'eveng]

Or wait a second, I think I saw this structure on a program on tv. I don't know if it was in New York City

[Seze Mune]

Or wait a second, I think I saw this structure on a program on tv. I don't know if it was in New York City

This particular one was in Italy, although I wouldn't be surprised if someone in New York had a similar concept.

[Seze Mune]

I see more problems with this. 

Maintenance is a real problem.

What kinds of trees have such shallow root balls?  You would have to choose the types of trees carefully so they didn't grow too tall, and the roots didn't crack their cement beds. 

And what about those trees which die?  So you have to have someone in to cut them down. If they are large, how do you remove them? You can't throw them over the edge, but I guess you could have a crane lower them to the ground, if they aren't too high.  You certainly don't want them chopped into bits and dragged through your apartment to the elevator.

You can't plant fruit trees or anything which might need to be cleaned up after.

So you can only plant small, spindly trees and shrubs.  Still requires lots of upkeep. 

I like the idea, but I see some problems.

[Meuiama Tsamsiyu (Toruk Makto)]

Yes, it does present problems in this fashion. I would imagine you could get away with larger trees on the outer corners of the structure. Perhaps tier the corners in? Where it is stringer with the beam and concrete make-up. And yes, there are a lot of shallow root trees out there. Maybe you could use large rhododendron and other types of flowering trees. They tend to grow slower as a lot of their yearly growth energy goes to the seed and flower.

It is the weight that does concern me, however this can also be overcome by simply bulking up the structure. Let's face it, look at the Birj Kalifa in Dubai. There really can't be much in the first floors cause the base of the tower proper should require a LOT of structural support and therefore, space. Just a though.

No, these towers are feasible. But right now, simply not in the financial or popularity vote.