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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #60 on: July 01, 2011, 01:07:53 am »
I'm still beating my head against the grammar, slowly, but I have some loan words to run by y'all. Are Kllìngan and Syakspir reasonable Na'vicizations of Klingon and Shakespeare, do you think?
(Which should let you figure out what I'm planning to ask, really.)

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #61 on: July 01, 2011, 01:21:33 am »
I'm still beating my head against the grammar, slowly, but I have some loan words to run by y'all. Are Kllìngan and Syakspir reasonable Na'vicizations of Klingon and Shakespeare, do you think?
(Which should let you figure out what I'm planning to ask, really.)

Oe irayo seiyi ngaru!

Kllìngan is just GREAT!

It might be Tìlìngan or Lì’fya leTngan if you were trying to copy the native pronunciation a bit more closely.  ;)

I would go with Syeykspir for our frined from Meri ’Ol ’Ìnglän.


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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2011, 01:35:19 am »
I'm still beating my head against the grammar, slowly, but I have some loan words to run by y'all. Are Kllìngan and Syakspir reasonable Na'vicizations of Klingon and Shakespeare, do you think?
(Which should let you figure out what I'm planning to ask, really.)

Oe irayo seiyi ngaru!

Kllìngan is just GREAT!

It might be Tìlìngan or Lì’fya leTlngan

FTFY :)


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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2011, 01:43:02 am »
I'm still beating my head against the grammar, slowly, but I have some loan words to run by y'all. Are Kllìngan and Syakspir reasonable Na'vicizations of Klingon and Shakespeare, do you think?
(Which should let you figure out what I'm planning to ask, really.)

Oe irayo seiyi ngaru!

Kllìngan is just GREAT!

It might be Tìlìngan or Lì’fya leTlngan

FTFY :)




I actually think that TLL is not as close to Klingon tlh (ˈt͡ɬ) as TÌLÌ or TeT in coda after E juxtaposed to LÌ. Those were not typos. But, anyone who really cares should check with Lance R. Casey. He would be the authority on the matter in the Community.


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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2011, 10:27:08 am »
Thank you very much.   :D
I am so excited about getting to meet everyone and speak a little Na'vi in person.

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2011, 10:30:15 am »
Thank you very much.   :D
I am so excited about getting to meet everyone and speak a little Na'vi in person.


Please post your question here or PM it to me once you've settled on it completely and I'll pass it by K. Pawl in advance. He just wants a opportunity to think about them so that he'll have more interesting answers.

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2011, 10:40:44 am »
I'm not sure how relevant this is, but someone(s) should be takin written notes at this panel....

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2011, 11:59:21 pm »
* 'Oma Tirea is a little interested...

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2011, 06:21:10 pm »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)
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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #69 on: July 04, 2011, 07:23:01 pm »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

And what is YOUR question going to be?


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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #70 on: July 05, 2011, 12:54:43 am »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

So that makes 2 of us :)

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #71 on: July 05, 2011, 01:15:20 am »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

So that makes 2 of us :)



...and YOUR question(s)?


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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #72 on: July 05, 2011, 02:32:55 am »
When all is said and done, we should have each person who asks a question write down what they said, especially if the presentation cannot be recorded. This can be done afterwards, so we have a complete set of notes (unless they involve linguistics, the answers to the questions aren't even important for language learning purposes. It is the questions, and any other Na`vi that gets spoken there ). I think there is a lot to learn from hearing a lot of different people speak Na`vi-- something that we can all study and learn from.

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #73 on: July 05, 2011, 02:47:10 am »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

And what is YOUR question going to be?
Oh that's easy...

Lì'fiyari ngeyä tsere'a ngal ftawnemkrrit, srake lu apxa kemo a nga nulnivew sivi nìkteng?  Kxawm srake lu lì'u fu koren a ngaru ke sunu??

Or alternatively (/ additionally)....

Mì zusawkrr nga nulnew pehem lolen lì'fyaolo'ru awngeyä?

FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

So that makes 2 of us :)
I'd actually be interested in "comparing notes" with you at some point this weekend, since you've actually, you know, studied this stuff and I've been learning it for Na'vi.  (Though I have had multiple linguists compliment how well I speak my ejectives.)
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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2011, 02:55:54 am »
FYI I'll be willing to help coach people that day (Or possibly the night before) on pronunciation. (I guess you can call me a volunteer on that.)

So that makes 2 of us :)




Ahem. That makes 3 of us

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2011, 11:19:30 am »

Oh that's easy...

Lì'fiyari ngeyä tsere'a ngal ftawnemkrrit, srake lu apxa kemo a nga nulnivew sivi nìkteng?  Kxawm srake lu lì'u fu koren a ngaru ke sunu??


He has already rejected a question along these lines. It was worded slightly differently, but was essentially the same topic. I'm not comfortable passing this by him again because these are SO similar.

Or alternatively (/ additionally)....

Mì zusawkrr nga nulnew pehem lolen lì'fyaolo'ru awngeyä?


This one seems fine. I'll send it by him, but it may be a bit similar to some other things that people are asking; primarily in that it's 'close enough' subject matter that it may get answered inadvertently if someone else is called on first. This also strikes me as something that someone from the general audience might ask in English. That might cut you off at the mehinamtil, so to speak.

Another one?

These 4 are available and pre-approved:

  - Lolen tengkrr a ayvurtuhu tskxekeng sarmi a pesìlenìl heykangham frato?
  - What was the funniest thing that happened while you were training the actors in Na’vi?

  - Vewng tì’usongit lì’fyayä tengkrr txana krr fterem mìkam hama rel haya pumsì a fì’uri ngaru peu lu ngäzìk frato?
  - What is the hardest thing about dealing with the language now that there is a long hiatus between films?

  - Furia ’ongokx ’erong nìtut lìfyaolo’ leNa’vi, eltur ngeyä tìtxen si frato a ’u fu pum a hek frato lu ’upe?
  - What is the most interesting or curious thing to you about the emergence of a Na’vi language fan community?

  - Var ngivop lì’fyati a fì’uri pehapxì sunu ngaru frato?
  - What is your favorite part of continuing to create the language?

Want one of those? You're welcome to change the Na’vi as long as the heart of the question stays the same.



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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #76 on: July 05, 2011, 12:31:57 pm »
Folks,

These are the questions I know about so far. If you're planning to ask something that's not on this list (including YOUR not being on this list), please let me know what you intend ASAP. This is all in the interest of (A) giving everyone an equal chance to engage and (B) having everything in the panel go as smoothly as possible on Saturday afternoon.

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Txonä Rolyu  Ma Pawl, srake fpamìl ngal futa Lì'fya leNa'vi slirvu tsawl fìtxan ulte keng mawkrr 'awa zìsìt sì mawl takrra rel arusikx, sutel tsat mi pirvlltxe?*

 
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Lisa  Peseng lu ’o’ frato a tseng a fìlì’fyal ngati ’Rrtamì feykolrrfen?*

 
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’Oma Tirea  Pefyana lolu fwa tìkangkem si hu Karla Mayer sì ayäktor, ulte tskxekeng sarmi a krr, pesìlen heykangham frato??*

 
Jane MacMillan*  Fko plltxe san fam ayvurä Syeykspirä lu swey seyä simfa nìKllìngan sìk. Payvurit ’Rrtayä rol fkol pxaw olo’txep Kelutralä?*

 
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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #77 on: July 06, 2011, 12:53:16 am »

Furia 'eyng hu krr atxan, oe tsap'alute si... indecision after I found out the questions I would otherwise plan on asking Pawl ke sivunu poru :P :-\

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #78 on: July 06, 2011, 01:04:37 am »

Furia 'eyng hu krr atxan, oe tsap'alute si... indecision after I found out the questions I would otherwise plan on asking Pawl ke sivunu poru :P :-\


This seems fine. I was using VURTU* for actor.

Would you be willing/interested to append/extend your question by adding:

  Ulte tskxekeng sarmi a krr, pesìlenìl heykangham frato?*

If not, no problem. It just seemed like it had a good synergy with your question and he's already 'blessed' it. He has something to say about CCH Pounder in this context, apparently...

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Re: 09 July :: The Panel and Bilingual Q&A
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2011, 07:40:46 pm »
All right, I think I have one. I'm not sure what noun case to use in passive voice. I don't think there is one, but I could be very wrong.

Syeykspirä ayvur lu swey mì nì‘awve lì’fya leKllìngan a fko plltxe. Payvur ‘Rrtayä rerol pxawolo’txep kelutralä?

also, I'm not sure about rerol for "are sung"; again with the passive voice. I'm a scientist, you'd think I'd have that one down pat.

Thank you in advance for any corrections!

 

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