As Formal as you can be.

Started by Txur’Itan, March 10, 2010, 03:41:02 PM

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Txur’Itan

Using all formal speech, what are the thoughts here?

1. Kaltxì, ngenga-ru l<uy>u fpom srak?  
2. Sìltsan-a tirea ngenga-hu l<uy>u ma ay-smuke sì ay-smukan sì ay-eylan.  
3. Ohe-ru l<uy>u tstxo "Neytiri te Tskaha Mo'at'ite" ta Omatikaya.  
4. Ohe-ru n<er><uy>ume ftu Tsahìk.  
5. Ohe-yä yawn-a sa'nok sì ohe-yä yawn-a sempul <us><uy>omum l<ìyev><uy>u fwa ohe-l me-fo-ti k<ol><uy>am<ei>e.  

Intended meaning.

1. Hello, you be well yes/no?
2. Good spirit be with you my sisters and my brothers and my friends.  
3. I am called by name "Neytiri of the Tskaha family, daughter of Mo'at", clan of Omatikaya.  
4. I am learning from Tsahìk (learning to be Tsahìk).  
5. My beloved mother and my beloved father shall be knowing I saw their souls.

EDIT: Made changes
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Carborundum

#1
Quote from: Txur'Itan on March 10, 2010, 03:41:02 PM
4. Oe-ru nerume s<uy>i ftu Tsahìk.
Nume is already a verb, so there is no need for si.
Quote5. Oe-yä tìyawn-a sa'nok sì oe-yä tìyawn-a sempul le-omum l<ìyev><uy>u fwa oe-l me-fo-ti k<ol><uy>am<ei>e.  
There is yawne, so tìyawna seems a bit unnecessary. For the "knowing" part you need to use a participle, om<us>um. Perhaps even omusuyum. But I doubt it, all those ceremonials seem a bit redundant, to me. I'd guess it behaves similarly to tenses, i.e. you only need it once, after that it's understood.
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Quote from: Carborundum on March 10, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
Quote from: Txur'Itan on March 10, 2010, 03:41:02 PM
4. Oe-ru nerume s<uy>i ftu Tsahìk.
Nume is already a verb, so there is no need for si.
Quote5. Oe-yä tìyawn-a sa'nok sì oe-yä tìyawn-a sempul le-omum l<ìyev><uy>u fwa oe-l me-fo-ti k<ol><uy>am<ei>e.  
There is yawne, so tìyawna seems a bit unnecessary. For the "knowing" part you need to use a participle, om<us>um. Perhaps even omusuyum. But I doubt it, all those ceremonials seem a bit redundant, to me. I'd guess it behaves similarly to tenses, i.e. you only need it once, after that it's understood.

I see, I have not looked at the dictionary since I wrote this a while back. LOL, I modified my text a bit based on your suggestions.

Also, I think the first position on omum is here <>omum, omom has a null onset in the first syllable, but the first vowel is still the O.

Based on the way Eytukan has formal forms in the whole dialogue of Jake's induction into the clan, It seems that some more questions need to be answered. 

<uy> may or may not be needed for participles.

Irayo
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Carborundum

Quote from: Txur'Itan on March 10, 2010, 07:14:46 PM
Also, I think the first position on omum is here <>omum, omom has a null onset in the first syllable, but the first vowel is still the O.
Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out.
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Quote from: Carborundum on March 11, 2010, 06:02:27 AM
Quote from: Txur'Itan on March 10, 2010, 07:14:46 PM
Also, I think the first position on omum is here <>omum, omom has a null onset in the first syllable, but the first vowel is still the O.
Interesting, I hadn't noticed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

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