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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #100 on: November 17, 2010, 07:56:49 pm »
Tsun tivam. I would make the following changes:

Tuteol zamunge oeru fìkxllit talun oe 'erefu ohakx!

I debated putting talun in, but wasn't sure if that was an appropriate use. :D Good to know!!!

Irayo nìtxan for both corrections. ;D

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #101 on: November 17, 2010, 11:43:02 pm »
Tsun tivam. I would make the following changes:

Tuteol zamunge oeru fìkxllit talun oe 'erefu ohakx!

I debated putting talun in, but wasn't sure if that was an appropriate use. :D Good to know!!!

Irayo nìtxan for both corrections. ;D

I might go without talun(a) and the <er> in 'efu if you're trying to be stylistic ;D

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #102 on: November 18, 2010, 11:42:13 am »
Tsun tivam. I would make the following changes:

Tuteol zamunge oeru fìkxllit talun oe 'erefu ohakx!

I debated putting talun in, but wasn't sure if that was an appropriate use. :D Good to know!!!

Irayo nìtxan for both corrections. ;D

I might go without talun(a) and the <er> in 'efu if you're trying to be stylistic ;D
Yes, these are good ideas though. Though, for your personal reference ma Ekirä, they're not required. The main differences is talun = because (of this thing) and taluna = because of this thing which. So, it's a little more explanatory though you can leave off the (a) as implied if you ask me. As for the <er> infix, that turns 'efu = feel into 'erefu = feeling. So, "I'm hungry" vs "I'm feeling hungry". It all comes down to wither you want to be extremely precise or leave it ambiguous.

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #103 on: November 18, 2010, 11:46:40 am »
Irayo, I'll change it to taluna but I'd still like to keep the 'erefu. ;D

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #104 on: November 21, 2010, 10:16:17 pm »
Idk were to ask this but
Can you use längu with vrrìn? I know vrrìn already has a negative connotation to it but can you say vrrìn längu to say you busy and very unhappy about it  ???
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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #105 on: November 22, 2010, 02:57:51 am »
Idk were to ask this but
Can you use längu with vrrìn? I know vrrìn already has a negative connotation to it but can you say vrrìn längu to say you busy and very unhappy about it  ???

I don’t see why not … But be careful, vrrìn is a verb already, so it would be vrr‹äng›ìn => vrrängìn. Frommer used vrreiyìn in on of his latest blog entries, so if the speaker can feel good about being overwhelmed by work, it’s logical to assume the same in the other direction. Could be seen as emphasis. Also, you don’t have to speak about yourself.
Tìkangkemit pol veykrrängìn. The work overwhelmed him (and I feel bad about it, because now he doesn’t have time for me)

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #106 on: November 22, 2010, 05:43:56 am »
I hope you don't mind, but I need to make a post here so that I see it in my Updated Topics area.  That way, I will see it, and I will be motivated to try some sentences. :)

EDIT: I mean, I have motivation to learn.  But most of my learning is almost spontaneous... so yeah. :)

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #107 on: November 23, 2010, 05:31:50 am »
I did want to ask one more thing before I really got a move on: does it matter if the sentences "make sense?" 

I mean, the way I see it, if I pick certain words and put them together in a sentence, and it is grammatically correct, lenited correctly, infixes are placed in right spots, etc., what the sentence means doesn't matter, does it?


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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #108 on: November 23, 2010, 05:50:15 am »
To that I say: Opinluke a aysäfpìl aean hahaw nìsti! ;D

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #109 on: November 23, 2010, 05:53:28 am »
To that I say: Opinluke a aysäfpìl aean hahaw nìsti! ;D

XD That made my day.


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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #110 on: November 23, 2010, 10:21:46 am »
I mean, the way I see it, if I pick certain words and put them together in a sentence, and it is grammatically correct, lenited correctly, infixes are placed in right spots, etc., what the sentence means doesn't matter, does it?

This is true if you simply wish to learn the grammatical rule by rote. The problem is that, in real languages (and hopefully, at some point with na'vi) pragmatics bends the grammar and syntax to allow the semantics to work. So at this stage of the language's development it's probably ok, but later on I think that pragmatics will start to become more important and so semantics will become more important.
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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #111 on: December 29, 2010, 11:54:56 am »
Idk were to ask this but
Can you use längu with vrrìn? I know vrrìn already has a negative connotation to it but can you say vrrìn längu to say you busy and very unhappy about it  ???

I don’t see why not … But be careful, vrrìn is a verb already, so it would be vrr‹äng›ìn => vrrängìn. Frommer used vrreiyìn in on of his latest blog entries, so if the speaker can feel good about being overwhelmed by work, it’s logical to assume the same in the other direction. Could be seen as emphasis. Also, you don’t have to speak about yourself.
Tìkangkemit pol veykrrängìn. The work overwhelmed him (and I feel bad about it, because now he doesn’t have time for me)

How is that correct while vrrìn is intransitive?

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #112 on: December 29, 2010, 06:02:23 pm »
Idk were to ask this but
Can you use längu with vrrìn? I know vrrìn already has a negative connotation to it but can you say vrrìn längu to say you busy and very unhappy about it  ???

I don’t see why not … But be careful, vrrìn is a verb already, so it would be vrr‹äng›ìn => vrrängìn. Frommer used vrreiyìn in on of his latest blog entries, so if the speaker can feel good about being overwhelmed by work, it’s logical to assume the same in the other direction. Could be seen as emphasis. Also, you don’t have to speak about yourself.
Tìkangkemit pol veykrrängìn. The work overwhelmed him (and I feel bad about it, because now he doesn’t have time for me)

How is that correct while vrrìn is intransitive?

… because the causative infix ‹eyk› changes an intransitive into a transitive verb. Think of latem (vin.) ‘change’ but leykatem (vtr.) ‘change sth.’
   
    zìsìkrr latem, ‘the season changes’
    horenit uvanä oel leykatem, ‘I change the rules of the game’

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #113 on: December 30, 2010, 06:56:13 am »
Oh boy. I haven't notice that :-[.

But still, shouldn't this sentence look like that: Tìkangkemìl pot veykrrängìn?

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #114 on: December 30, 2010, 10:48:19 am »
Oh boy. I haven't notice that :-[.

But still, shouldn't this sentence look like that: Tìkangkemìl pot veykrrängìn?
It should indeed:
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His work is still completely overwhelming him (and I’m glad).
Peyä tìkangkemìl mi veykrreiyìn pot nìwotx.
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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #115 on: December 30, 2010, 04:15:12 pm »
*kxangangang* my bad, ngaytxoa

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #116 on: December 31, 2010, 03:37:54 am »
Kea tìkin ;).

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #117 on: January 07, 2011, 05:36:03 pm »
Here's me trying!
Oe yarun 'upe oe au.

I was trying to say I discovered what I was made of.  :'(
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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #118 on: January 07, 2011, 07:39:18 pm »
My first attempt, in words that I remember:

Txonam pamrel sami 'uoru nìNavi.  Fìtrr ke omum oel aylì'uti nìwotx.  Oe 'efu nìskxawng. :-[
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Re: Na'vi practice thread
« Reply #119 on: January 07, 2011, 07:58:31 pm »
My first attempt, in words that I remember:

Txonam pamrel sami 'uoru nìNavi.  Fìtrr ke omum oel aylì'uti nìwotx.  Oe 'efu nìskxawng. :-[

That's good :) First two sentences seem completely correct ;) As for last one, I don't understand what you want say. And an adverb nìskxawng.. I'm not sure we may create it. But I can understand a meaning, I hope. Perhaps you mean Oe 'äpefu na skxawng - i.e. I feel like a moron.

Here's me trying!
Oe yarun 'upe oe au.

I was trying to say I discovered what I was made of.  :'(

If I understand it correct, it should be

  Oel rolun futa tsawfa oeti ngolop fkol.

But I can be mistaken...
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