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Plumps

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on May 07, 2011, 02:19:52 AM
Nitram lu palulukan a ngäng ateya nìhawng taluna yerom sawtute a lu ayskxawng

And it even rhymes :D

Kamean

Quote from: `Eylan Ayfalulukanä on May 07, 2011, 02:19:52 AM
Nitram lu palulukan a ngäng ateya nìhawng taluna yerom sawtute a lu ayskxawng

Tewti! Siltsana lì'fyavi. Sunu oer nìtxan. :D
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Sngäiyu

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 05, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
It's a directional adposition meaning to, towards. Used in expressions like ne narìng oe keräI am going to the forest.
aah i understand... ;D so "i'm going home after school" would mean "oel kä ne kelku maw numtseng" in Na'vi or am i wrong?  :D

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

just drop the subjective case on oe. there's no direct object here so it's not needed.
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on May 08, 2011, 06:14:17 AM
just drop the subjective case on oe. there's no direct object here so it's not needed.

It's "agentive case" ;)

can't have any objects because it's intransitive. Also to keep in mind: ne can be dropped if it's used right after the verb.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

QuoteIt's "agentive case"
I've seen people use the term "subjective". I think it's correct (at least grammatically).

QuoteAlso to keep in mind: ne can be dropped if it's used right after the verb.
really? never seen that rule before. it's very interesting.
Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on May 08, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
I've seen people use the term "subjective". I think it's correct (at least grammatically).

Subjective (some use word "nominative") is a different case that is not marked in Na'vi and appears in sentences like oe kä, nga hahaw etc.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on May 08, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
QuoteAlso to keep in mind: ne can be dropped if it's used right after the verb.
really? never seen that rule before. it's very interesting.
I memorize it too. :)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Plumps

Quote from: Kamean on May 08, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on May 08, 2011, 09:52:49 AM
QuoteAlso to keep in mind: ne can be dropped if it's used right after the verb.
really? never seen that rule before. it's very interesting.
I memorize it too. :)
An early blog post ... under 2 ;)

Tswusayona Tsamsiyu

Nivume Na'vit, fpivìl nìNa'vi, kivame na Na'vi.....
oer fko syaw tswusayona tsamsiyu

Kamean

Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Sngäiyu

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 08, 2011, 09:43:53 AM
Quote from: Tswusayona Tsamsiyu on May 08, 2011, 06:14:17 AM
just drop the subjective case on oe. there's no direct object here so it's not needed.

It's "agentive case" ;)

can't have any objects because it's intransitive. Also to keep in mind: ne can be dropped if it's used right after the verb.
yes a sentence like "oel kä kelkuti" would sond pretty strange... ;D
but if "ne" isn't used right after a verb it can be dropped, or am i wrong? :-\

Sireayä mokri

#172
Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 10, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
but if "ne" isn't used right after a verb it can be dropped, or am i wrong? :-\

It can't. Oe kä ne kelku=Oe kä kelku=Ne kelku oe kä, but not *kelku oe kä or *kä oe kelku.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 10:37:09 AM
It can't. Oe kä ne kelku=Oe kä kelku=Ne kelku oe kä, but not *kelku oe kä.
It even sounds like a strange way, at least for me.
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Kamean on May 10, 2011, 10:49:49 AM
It even sounds like a strange way, at least for me.

Strange doesn't mean bad as long as it's correct ;)
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

But it's been wrong. ;)

I mean, that strangeness would cause the alert - and whether it is right?
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Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Kamean on May 10, 2011, 10:57:25 AM
But it's been wrong. ;)

Indeed.

Quote from: Kamean on May 10, 2011, 10:57:25 AM
I mean, that strangeness would cause the alert - and whether it is right?

One should not forget that sometimes even most ordinary things can turn out to be incorrect.
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Kamean

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 11:11:19 AM
One should not forget that sometimes even most ordinary things can turn out to be incorrect.
Mllte ngahu.
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.


Ataeghane

Aren't ordinary things ordinary because we know for sure they are correct?

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

Kamean

#179
Sometimes the mistake is not noticed for a long time and it seems just about right because of its ordinariness. ;)
Tse'a ngal ke'ut a krr fra'uti kame.