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Sngäiyu

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 10, 2011, 10:37:09 AM
Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 10, 2011, 10:25:16 AM
but if "ne" isn't used right after a verb it can be dropped, or am i wrong? :-\

It can't. Oe kä ne kelku=Oe kä kelku=Ne kelku oe kä, but not *kelku oe kä or *kä oe kelku.

very interesting ;D where did you find this rule? (i'm just asking because i don't really get it ;D)

Sireayä mokri

Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 15, 2011, 10:28:11 AM
very interesting ;D where did you find this rule? (i'm just asking because i don't really get it ;D)

Quote from: Plumps on May 09, 2011, 02:59:00 AM
An early blog post ... under 2 ;)
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

Sngäiyu

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on May 15, 2011, 10:35:41 AM
Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 15, 2011, 10:28:11 AM
very interesting ;D where did you find this rule? (i'm just asking because i don't really get it ;D)

Quote from: Plumps on May 09, 2011, 02:59:00 AM
An early blog post ... under 2 ;)
aah from there you got it :D sounds very interesting! i'll read it right away! ;D

Sngäiyu

yeah it's a really good text :D but when i read it i remembered one question i wanted to ask here some time ago: i learned speaking this tricky r (not the rr but the other r just like in "nari" ;D) but i just can't speak it if it's used next to a consonant!!! (like in "srefey" or "utral") ;D do you know how i can speak this r in such a case? :D

i also have some problems to get this "rr" into words (i can spell it but if i try to say it in a word it sounds pretty...erm...strange ;D) but i'm working on... ;D but if anyone has a tip for me here you're also welcome to help me ;D

Eywa'eveng-tìranyu

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Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 24, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
yeah it's a really good text :D but when i read it i remembered one question i wanted to ask here some time ago: i learned speaking this tricky r (not the rr but the other r just like in "nari" ;D) but i just can't speak it if it's used next to a consonant!!! (like in "srefey" or "utral") ;D do you know how i can speak this r in such a case? :D

i also have some problems to get this "rr" into words (i can spell it but if i try to say it in a word it sounds pretty...erm...strange ;D) but i'm working on... ;D but if anyone has a tip for me here you're also welcome to help me ;D

look at this:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_der_IPA-Zeichen#r
rr = r
r = ɾ

or listen to this: it's the word frakrr spoken by omängum fra'uti: http://navi.tyger.org/wotd_50.mp3 - it's got both r and ɾ in it.
If you want others, just look here: http://forum.learnnavi.org/audio/spoken-na%27vi-words/

Sngäiyu

oh good links thanks! i think that'll help a lot... :D i think i just have to practice it as often as i can ;D the only problem is that nobody in my family can even speak one Na'vi word ;D so i can almost never really speak in Na'vi... :'(

Ataeghane

I speak to my friends. That makes me have no friends.

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

Eywa'eveng-tìranyu

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Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 24, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
yeah it's a really good text :D but when i read it i remembered one question i wanted to ask here some time ago: i learned speaking this tricky r (not the rr but the other r just like in "nari" ;D) but i just can't speak it if it's used next to a consonant!!! (like in "srefey" or "utral") ;D do you know how i can speak this r in such a case? :D

i also have some problems to get this "rr" into words (i can spell it but if i try to say it in a word it sounds pretty...erm...strange ;D) but i'm working on... ;D but if anyone has a tip for me here you're also welcome to help me ;D

Just have a look here [EN] or here [DE].


EDIT: added German link

Sngäiyu

Quote from: Ataeghane on May 29, 2011, 06:05:55 AM
I speak to my friends. That makes me have no friends.

;D don't mind you have a lot of friends here!!! :D

Sngäiyu

Quote from: Eywa'eveng-tìranyu on May 29, 2011, 09:05:31 AM
Quote from: Sngäiyu on May 24, 2011, 08:43:04 AM
yeah it's a really good text :D but when i read it i remembered one question i wanted to ask here some time ago: i learned speaking this tricky r (not the rr but the other r just like in "nari" ;D) but i just can't speak it if it's used next to a consonant!!! (like in "srefey" or "utral") ;D do you know how i can speak this r in such a case? :D

i also have some problems to get this "rr" into words (i can spell it but if i try to say it in a word it sounds pretty...erm...strange ;D) but i'm working on... ;D but if anyone has a tip for me here you're also welcome to help me ;D

Just have a look here [EN] or here [DE].


EDIT: added German link

yeah thats it!!! the only problem is that my stoneage old computer went down when i tried to use it... ;D but i'm at it :D

Sngäiyu

hey cool i just saw that german link the first time... ;D thats almost even better!!! :D irayo nìtxan! ;D

Sngäiyu

of course its good to learn na'vi at all but if you're from germany its even better to learn it in german ;D so again thanks a lot... :D
i think i'll try to use it right away!! ;D

Nìnyu Tìrey

Tewti.  Oel ke olomum futa fìkìng tok fìtsengemì. 

/\Ayeyawr lu srak?

Kemaweyan

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Quote from: Nìnyu Tìrey on July 07, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
Tewti.  Oel ke olamomum futa fìkìngìl tok fìtsenget

/\Ayeyawr lu srak?

-ol- is perfective aspect infix, it means that you've done something, but here you need just past simple -am-: I did not know.

The verb tok is transitive, so use it with agentive and patientive cases, also it doesn't need any adpositions.

eyawr is an adjective, but plural prefix ay- is for nouns and pronouns only.
Nìrangal frapo tsirvun pivlltxe nìNa'vi :D

Nìnyu Tìrey

Quote from: Kemaweyan on July 07, 2011, 06:06:22 PM
Quote from: Nìnyu Tìrey on July 07, 2011, 06:00:45 PM
Tewti.  Oel ke olamomum futa fìkìngìl tok fìtsenget

/\Ayeyawr lu srak?

-ol- is perfective aspect infix, it means that you've done something, but here you need just past simple -am-: I did not know.

The verb tok is transitive, so use it with agentive and patientive cases, also it doesn't need any adpositions.

eyawr is an adjective, but plural prefix ay- is for nouns and pronouns only.
Honestly, I have no idea how I messed up on eyawr, but the rest make sense.  Irayo  :)

Ataeghane

I would say <ìm> (instead of <am>) would be better in this sentence. "I didn't know just a moment ago, but I've just found this thread (I found it a moment ago.)"

Oer wivìntxu ngal oey keyeyt krr a tse'a sat. Frakrr.

Sngäiyu

i dont really get the difference between tsa'u and fi'u... can someone explain it to me? :-\

Sireayä mokri

Fì'u means this thing; tsa'u means that thing :)
When the mirror speaks, the reflection lies.

'Oma Tirea

Quote from: Sireayä mokri on July 14, 2011, 08:44:45 AM
Fì'u means this thing; tsa'u means that thing :)

Basically it's the difference between this and that.  Same for any fì- or tsa- noun.

[img]http://swokaikran.skxawng.lu/sigbar/nwotd.php?p=2b[/img]

ÌTXTSTXRR!!

Srake serar le'Ìnglìsìa lì'fyayä aylì'ut?  Nari si älofoniru rutxe!!

Sngäiyu

so a tree next to me would be "fiutral" and a tree far away would be "tsautral" then, or am I wrong? :-\