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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2010, 04:37:43 pm »
Even if mllte isn't the normal phrase, it certainly isn't wrong (although I'd probably say molte instead of mamllte but in this case that's almost entirely personal preference).
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2010, 04:42:47 pm »
Even if mllte isn't the normal phrase, it certainly isn't wrong (although I'd probably say molte instead of mamllte but in this case that's almost entirely personal preference).

This is also true...I just said we don't know if it is correct...I didn't say it was incorrect. ;) I don't have that authority XD

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2010, 05:02:50 pm »
Even if mllte isn't the normal phrase, it certainly isn't wrong (although I'd probably say molte instead of mamllte but in this case that's almost entirely personal preference).

This is also true...I just said we don't know if it is correct...I didn't say it was incorrect. ;) I don't have that authority XD

Well I was saying molte for a while, although mamllte seemed more appropriate.  In either case it is more informal (casual) Na'vi ;)

Formal Na'vi would be "Oe molte".
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2010, 05:11:45 pm »
Even if mllte isn't the normal phrase, it certainly isn't wrong (although I'd probably say molte instead of mamllte but in this case that's almost entirely personal preference).

This is also true...I just said we don't know if it is correct...I didn't say it was incorrect. ;) I don't have that authority XD

Well I was saying molte for a while, although mamllte seemed more appropriate.  In either case it is more informal (casual) Na'vi ;)

Formal Na'vi would be "Oe molte".

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2010, 03:20:58 am »
Human maths is flawed, if you have a number and you divide it by another number you find out howmany of them you get out of the original number.


It stops working when you divide by zero.


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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2010, 03:24:07 am »
Now tell me guys: why do you want to devide by 0?

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2010, 03:51:03 am »
Human maths is flawed, if you have a number and you divide it by another number you find out howmany of them you get out of the original number.


It stops working when you divide by zero.


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No, You can prove without too much difficulty that any number can be the solution to 0/0.
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2010, 04:02:52 am »
0/0 has no sense, and we MUST STATE it in order to keep other mathematical rules true!

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2010, 04:40:59 am »
0/0 has no sense, and we MUST STATE it in order to keep other mathematical rules true!

Which mathematical rules require that 0/0 has a specific answer? As I say, it's possible to prove that 0/0 can equal any number with no difficulty at all.
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2010, 04:43:58 am »
Let's see it!

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2010, 04:45:12 am »
I remember taht the convergence of lim x-> 0 (f(x)/g(x)) = 0/0 can be examined by the rule of L'Hôpital by examining lim x->0 (f'(x)/g'(x)) - but that has nothing todo with the term 0/0 in general ^^

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2010, 04:55:02 am »
Look, guys! There are certain axioms in maths. (One of them is that WE DO NOT DEVIDE BY 0.) We don't explain them, or prove them, nor argue with them! They are just simply accepted. Understand? And if you don't listen to me, I warn you, You're gonna be sent out of the classroom!!! (screamed in a high voice)

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #52 on: June 18, 2010, 04:57:26 am »
Look, guys! There are certain axioms in maths. (One of them is that WE DO NOT DEVIDE BY 0.) We don't explain them, or prove them, nor argue with them! They are just simply accepted. Understand? And if you don't listen to me, I warn you, You're gonna be sent out of the classroom!!! (screamed in a high voice)
I won't divide by zero (is bad ^^), just said this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Hôpital%27s_rule.

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #53 on: June 18, 2010, 04:58:37 am »
I remember taht the convergence of lim x-> 0 (f(x)/g(x)) = 0/0 can be examined by the rule of L'Hôpital by examining lim x->0 (f'(x)/g'(x)) - but that has nothing todo with the term 0/0 in general ^^

Yep, you can use L'hôpital's rule in reverse by integrating (as there are an infinite possible values for the integral of 0), or you can just take out factors.

0/0=(2/3)*(0/0)=(5/7)*(0/0) this statement cannot be true (well, unless we assume that 0/0=0, but that can be disproved using the method above.

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Sorry, I thought you meant 0/0 having a value was an axiom whereas you actually meant the opposite (which is, of course, correct).
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #54 on: June 18, 2010, 05:01:58 am »
OK, you can stay in class. (in a lowered voice)

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #55 on: June 18, 2010, 11:04:32 am »
Human maths is flawed, if you have a number and you divide it by another number you find out howmany of them you get out of the original number.


It stops working when you divide by zero.


How many lots of nothing are there in nothing? ONE !

hrh......how many units of nothing are in nothing...that would be one nothing. hahaha...but with that logic, any number times zero would mean that number of nothings...wth?? 0.0

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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #56 on: June 18, 2010, 04:28:35 pm »
How many lots of nothing are there in nothing? ONE !

hrh......how many units of nothing are in nothing...that would be one nothing. hahaha...but with that logic, any number times zero would mean that number of nothings...wth?? 0.0


Actually, it could be 0, 1, 2, 5, 29376, 321654179456010, etc.

This is why it is undefined (and if it is possible, then 1=2, and by similar processes, -∞=∞!)
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #57 on: June 18, 2010, 04:51:08 pm »
This is why it is undefined (and if it is possible, then 1=2, and by similar processes, -∞=∞!)

I forgot all of the hilarious proofs that for x=/=y that x=y if you just allow dividing by 0
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #58 on: June 19, 2010, 08:15:26 am »
How many lots of nothing are there in nothing? ONE !

hrh......how many units of nothing are in nothing...that would be one nothing. hahaha...but with that logic, any number times zero would mean that number of nothings...wth?? 0.0


Actually, it could be 0, 1, 2, 5, 29376, 321654179456010, etc.

This is why it is undefined (and if it is possible, then 1=2, and by similar processes, -∞=∞!)

Perfectly possible if both a and b = Zero
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Re: Don't Be a Hero and Divide by Zero
« Reply #59 on: June 19, 2010, 11:59:21 am »
No it isn't. If you assume that a=b=0 and that it is possible to equal 0 then the last step 2b=b -> 2=1 is perfectly valid, clearly it isn't QED by reductio ad absurdem.
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